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QIPCO British Champions Day

The supposedly give-dependant Fallen Angel broke the clock (admittedly wind assisted) in the Sun Chariot at Newmarket.

And some might say Rosallion is the "bookmakers' horse" of the year, though I couldn't possibly comment.
 
I was half expecting the owners to run Zeus Olympios here and hold Rosallion back for the Breeders cup
Too soon I guess as he's lightly raced but certainly one that could hit the division next year
 
I've got a few a/p bets for my Balmofolio or balfolio.
Oliver show 40/1 Inc bonus.(twice)and 33 /1
Galeron 33/1
Apiarist 66/1
Bopedro 50/1
Arisaig 40/1
Theoryofeverything. 50/1

Billy the kid is down for Oliver show and galeron.5
 
Outsider said:
Balmofolio or balfolio.
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First syllable of race title with "folio" tagged onto it - "Balfolio."

Now we've settled by far the most important talking point of the meeting we can focus on lesser matters like who will win the race and the other six contests on the card!
 
It was yet another cracking initial angle from Slim, but the world and his wife now know it's dried out there and there's no rain forecast until Sunday.

I'm less than inspired tbh because a fair few who want it Good or quicker are already at the front of the market.

My only ante-post bets so far are Arisaig @ 40/1, Delacroix @ 16/1, and Almeric, who I no longer fancy so much as I think he needs cut.

I actually think Ombudsman is the one to beat, but then the market thinks the same.

Not sure I'd want to be on Field Of Gold at a short price - making excuses for horses isn't the best idea long-term when they're short and Fallen Angel (though arguably best with cut) is in the form of her life.

Rosallion - beaten at 9/4, 5/2, 11/2, evens and 33/10 so far this season.

Yes, I'm aware horses don't know what price they are, any racing cliche dullards out there, but that beast is a real bookmakers' friend if ever I saw one.

In the Sprint, Lazzat is the best horse in the race, but he's another arguably at his very best with cut, Royal Ascot win notwithstanding, and he's disappointed twice since.

And in the fillies & mares, Kalpana ought to be different gear but she's yet another arguably best with cut and although she raced wide in the Arc, I thought she got beat fair and square plus imo she's not the most genuine if anything gets her well and truly "at it."

Not fussed about the quick return, though, it didn't stop Triptych (altogether tougher, though) back in the day.

Trawlerman, if again ridden to make it a true test, ought to give the wfa to Stay True and if they run Saratoga as a pacemaker/spoiler and he ends up making all there will be an actual riot on here and I'll be ordering in extra popcorn to watch it.

Oh and the 2yo race they've invented to open the card ought to concern Brussels and Words Of Truth, but there's unexposed material among the rest.

I'm not actually THAT inspired by it all, tbh - good thing I'm backing the winner of the lucky last at 40/1 otherwise I might take the dog I don't own (having fallen out with all my imaginary friends, I've now resorted to imaginary pets) for a walk instead.

I may feel differently come Thursday morning when the final decs throw it all into sharp focus.
 
Fwiw (not much I suspect)

12:55 Difficult to see past Words Of Truth, but i’lll be interested to see how Division goes up at the top table. Been coming along nicely, but this might be a tad ambitious.

1:30 Trawlerman all the way

2:05 Montassib had a set back and his only run this season was at Newbury (Group3) where he finished strongly into third having been taken off his feet early on. The old boy would give the youngsters plenty to think about if he’s back near his best and the extra furlong today is his bag. Otherwise, the favourite, Lazzat, should take it.

2:45 Question marks over the top two in the market (today) and scene seems set for something to jump out of the woodwork. Quite what, I’ve no idea.

3:23 Assuming Delacroix doesn’t run in this Field Of Gold bestrides this field if you can forgive his last run (found be lame next morning). I’m full of forgiveness.

4:05 should be a cracker - I’ll go with Ombudsman

4:40 Not a clue. I see Billy The Kid is down to ride two of them - that’d be some feat even for him.
 
barjon said:
2:05 Montassib had a set back and his only run this season was at Newbury (Group3) where he finished strongly into third having been taken off his feet early on. The old boy would give the youngsters plenty to think about if he’s back near his best and the extra furlong today is his bag. Otherwise, the favourite, Lazzat, should take it.
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Luckily we have the 2yr old race first to get an angle on the ground conditions

Montassib will need some cut to win at this level, if there is- he wins
 
I have to say, I mentioned Arisaig early in the season, before the Lincoln I think.

I'll be taking part in this punting project, but I want to see it declared first.
 
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Why is Pride Of Arras 25/1, please discuss.

He's proven form over 12F.

I'd like to see them bounce him out the stalls to try and make all. Use that stamina and get them at it early on.

He won't be able to storm past horses of this calibre like he did at York last time over this sort of distance.

His best hope here over 10F is from the front.
 
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I'm thinking of having an e/way bet on Economics,
Mind you he hasn't been in a race all year and the last time he ran,he came 6th in this race last year.
Does anyone think Economics has a good chance of a place ? I think he's about 14/1 at the moment
 
Oxford said:
I'm thinking of having an e/way bet on Economics,
Mind you he hasn't been in a race all year and the last time he ran,he came 6th in this race last year.
Does anyone think Economics has a good chance of a place ? I think he's about 14/1 at the moment
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He'd be my idea of the worst e/w bet of all time. The probability of him bombing our is far higher than is normal in a race like this.
 
Slim said:
He'd be my idea of the worst e/w bet of all time. The probability of him bombing out is far higher than is normal in a race like this.
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FWIW I'd agree with this.

For the win part of the bet, I'd say Economics would need to be not only fully fit, but deliver a new career best to win this.

For the place part, obviously there is that place window between victory and unplaced and in any theory any horse can squeeze through it.

But if a horse has had a year out, as opposed to being in terrific recent form with just a few pounds to find, his chances are more volatile and the betting often reflects it.

This horse could be backed down to single figures and then may, or may not, run a stormer.

Or drift to 40 plus on the machine win market by the time the stalls open and be more likely to be beaten 20 lengths than be placed.
 

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