Rant Alert! Don't Ever Get Old!

Originally posted by purr@Apr 8 2005, 02:54 PM
I have a GP who seems to be obsessed with getting me on to Seroxat. He keeps offering it to me.

I have no idea why, as I have not presented to him with symptoms of clinical depression. I'm about as depressed as I am male.

I refuse to see him now.
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Seroxat omg, that will make you worse i should know as my grandad as been on it for a couple of yrs now and he's turned into one grumpy selfish old man.
 
Derek I have edited your posting for personal abuse . The person who said it was at least partly airborne and that they were increasingly concerned that " clean " hospitals were being inaccurately suggested as the cure all was a consultant in public health medicine on Radio 4 last week after that baby died of MRSA despite the fact that no infection could be found on the ward or upon her family .

Perhaps he should come to you for advice ?

Kathy I thought that the final line of your post was nonsense . If you want to tell me how Tory policy on the NHS from 1997-2005 would have rendered the health service in a better state feel free.

As you know well you were suspended because you did engage in rational debate with Songsheet but abused her and disclosed confidential information from Escorial's site . If action is required against you again it will be all your own doing .
 
Gosh, there really are some terrible stories on here! :o

Purr, you're having a terrible time, but however bad it is, tell your quack to stick his Seroxat where the sun don't shine. It's been linked to several suicides - far from relieving depression, it's seemingly, and suddenly, caused people to feel utterly bottomless despair and kill themselves without any warning. There was a tv programme on this issue some months back, with the stricken family members left totally dumbstruck as to why their loved ones had killed themselves. And these weren't elderly folks - some were really young, some with young children, some just trying to get lifted a bit out of the often hormonal depression that afflicts some women. So, however ghastly you feel, and it sounds like you're battling away against a tide of apathy from the medics, don't touch that rubbish!
 
I don't know, Ardross. Perhaps after it was 'outed' by the programme? Certainly it was being lobbed merrily at everyone a few months back. I can't wait for the private doc to see Mommy Dearest next week, so's I can ask him about Arcoxia - the drug given to her, which was supposedly withdrawn for causing fatal strokes and heart attacks. I expect there are plenty of GPs who aren't at all up-to-date with the latest edicts re withdrawals, and obviously the pharmacies aren't, either!
 
Talking of which I think I told you last year that it was only the visit of a young locum to my grandmother that changed her from Zantac to Zoton !
 
Some scary stuff being posted on here.

People making judgements on drugs based on scare-mongering TV programmes.

I have been on Seroxat for 8 years and there's nothing WRONG WITH ME, I TELL YOU!!!!!! :D

Come on folks chill out a bit, this forum is becoming ridiculous. B)

Colin
 
Just from my immediate family....

...when my father was 74 he was diagnosed with a virulent form of prostate cancer, but the NHS wouldn't operate because it wasn't their policy to do so for this sort of cancer for patients over 70. They wanted to give him some drugs which would slow the cancer down so that he would have maybe 2 years life expectancy.Anyway, he managed to get his insurance company to pay for some of the costs of having it done privately - the operation was a suceess, and he's in fine health now at 81. He fought in the last war for this country, but when he's old the state wants to kill him off - bloody great, eh?

An aunt of mine contracted MRSA in hospital 2 years ago, after a while they sent her home saying they couldn't do any more (they wanted the bed actually). Her condition worsened, she went back into hospital. had a stroke and died - the doctor told my uncle when death was imminent, about an hour away, that they'd just found out that the MRSA had disappeared, very convenient don't you think. But what can you do?

One of my daughters was diagnosed as having either irritable bowel syndrome, or "nothing". Many months later, after a number of hospital visits, the endometriosis was identified and treated. The doctor who discovered this was amazed and appalled that it hadn't been discovered before. She'd been in such pain that she hadn't been able to hold down a permanent job then, and spent a lot of time unemployed. Any chance of the NHS compensating her for thier incompetence, some fecking hope?
 
Colin, if we all dismissed what we read and what we saw, we'd all be sitting around with piles of drugs which probably aren't the best treatment for our conditions. My Mother's certainly haven't been seriously reviewed in years, and when her doctor re-prescribes one he's discontinued, along with one that he's prescribed as a replacement (but is now supposed to be off the shelves!) I despair at the level of record-keeping or even commonsense.

I'm not an alarmist, but the programme on Seroxat (and good luck to you if you're happy with your dosage) showed how it's not the be-all and end-all for everyone. The marvellous thing was having an 'expert' (i.e. spokesman for the drug's mfr.) coming on and saying that, with all the thousands of people blissing out on the stuff, the suicides represented a 'tiny minority of unfortunate cases'.

Every drug carries a list of possible side effects longer than Victoria Beckham's shopping list, but I bet none of them say 'may dispose user towards suicidal tendencies' - the most warning you'll get, along with constipation, itchy skin, lousy eyesight, nausea or rashes, is 'may cause depression' and the usual caveat to see your doctor if any side effects happen. But if these people didn't present any signs of depression, but suddenly topped themselves, that's not really quite good enough. Anyway, no-one needs anti-depressants - they just need to snap out of it, pull themselves together, eat more fruit, and take hearty walks. :(
 
:D @ Krizon.

Jon, it is not surprising that a number of people on Seroxat commit suicide, after all it is prescribed for people who are suffering from clinical depression and it does seem just a little unfair to connect the numbers of suicides and Seroxat. It is quite likely that these people would have taken their lives anyway.

If the TV programme you are referring to is the Panorama effort then I would remind you of the reliability and accuracy at the same team's look into corruption in racing.

Panorama used to have a reputation for responsible reporting, now I am afraid it has gone the way of all flesh. Let The Sun, The News Of The World and sensationalism reign.

Jon, I normally find myself in agreement with you on most issues but on, specifically, the connection between Seroxat and suicide we will have to differ. :(

All the best,

Colin
 
Maybe not suicide, Colin, but Seroxat is a very dangerous drug which should be considered very, very carefully by a doctor before being prescribed. There are much safer anti-depressants out there, paroxetine being the main one & these should be used rather than the so-called "wonder drug" which is, in reality, a nasty, nasty drug. It can have serious physical side effects, it is very addictive (physically) and it can lead to drastic mood swings. I really do think that something must be done to combat it's widespread dishing out. For once, I think Panorama were correct on this one.
 
Dom,

SEROXAT is paroxetine, have the box in front of me at the moment . SEROXAT is just the GlaxoSmithKline trade name.

I wouldn't argue about dependency and addiction issues but the only side-effect I get is weight gain, because I'm not "worrying" as much and perhaps loss of memory but then again, I am 60. :D

I can't agree with you about the Panorama programme in my eyes it was totally irresponsible. The main case studied, if my memory is up to this, was a student who was trying to come off them, didn't she do a sort of diary (blog). Call me a cynic (btw by what I've read lately cynics were not very nice) but it wouldn't be difficult to imagine that she was trying to make a few extra bucks.

Anyway, Have to rush it's National day and I'm supposed to opening the shop.

Have a good day, I assume you are working!

Colin
 
Sorry Colin, I meant fluoxetine, it's early & I was posting quickly whilst I had 2 mins!!!

I still stand by my view that Seroxat is a dangerous drug & more attention & due care should be given before handing it out like smarties.
 
Venusian

I sympathise with your daughter. I wish this was uncommon, but the average time for diagnosis of this condition is 7 years, mainly due to doctors fobbing women off with "period pains are normal", irritable bowel syndrome (I heard that one myself) or other excuses. We're made to feel that it's all in our head - not a nice feeling! You only have to read the NES message board to realise how many women have had a hard time with the NHS, with this one condition.

Trouble is, even diagnosed there doesn't seem to be much action...
 
I have removed all the other posts from this thread so that people can debate the NHS on here
 
Back to MRSA.
The gentleman that Ardross refers to on Radio 4 happens to be a suit with his own agenda and read his lines,as provided by the office of the MOH.

Theories have been bandied about for a couple of years now on the speading of MRSA:

It is safe to assume that,if you are not an In-Patient,usually on a Surgical Ward or in a Operating Theatre or been treated by someone who has not prepared themselves properly.You won't get MRSA.

MRSA is very dangerous and should not be underestimated.
 
See its a dodgey subject really aint it, Coz my grandad has it and will have it for life as they've treated it and it keeps coming back now they say he's a carrier, and that it is airbourne and told us not to go near him if he's sneezing or coughing as we could catch it that way. :blink:

So you have one person telling you one thing, and another telling something differant.
 
Originally posted by Ardross@Apr 9 2005, 08:05 PM
Thanks The Pro I did not think I was mistaken when i heard it was airborne
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The thing is with MRSA the nhs are trying to keep it under wraps, it took us 3 weeks for them to even tell us the truth to wot he had, we only found out when they moved him to a side room and we demanded to know, and then she only whispered it. They tried to pass it off as flu to us when we first asked, when they knew what he had in the first place this is because he had to come home with it and they know we could catch it.
 
Depressing if that is the case . I fear it may be because instead of being a problem to be addressed intelligently it is a political football
 
Ardross.
believe what you like.

I am just happy and safe in the knowledge that i won't catch MRSA kissing a gal with a strep throat.

You on the other hand will run a mile and miss the opprtunity of a lifetime. :D :D
 
Originally posted by Derek.Burgess@Apr 9 2005, 08:34 PM
Ardross.
believe what you like.

I am just happy and safe in the knowledge that i won't catch MRSA kissing a gal with a strep throat.

You on the other hand will run a mile and miss the opprtunity of a lifetime. :D :D
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Come and give my old grandad a snog m8, hes got MRSA in his sputum. :lol:
 
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