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Rule 4 deductions

Danny

Danny

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I should know with the amount of time ive been betting but ive never taken much notice.

Had a bet with Ladbrokes. Noticed it had come up with a 5p rule 4 so I looked at what had been withdrawn and the horse with them was 22/1 at the time of withdrawal. So for me anything over 14/1 should be no deduction. Then the fav got withdrawn at the time of withdrawal with them was 3/1 so that should be 25p but they've added another 30p withdrawl so 35p in total.

The only thing I could think of is they dont use their own prices for deductions and that somehow its done across the board. If thats the case it sucks as youre bringing in bookmakers laying at shorter odds who are putting on extra places. To my mind they have just robbed me of 10% of any winnings (likely to be nil ). Can anyone clarify where they take the rule 4 from in not their own book ? Seems like madness to me.
 
I hate how often the Irish racing produces non runners just an hour or two before the first race ruining my multi bets.
 
Danny said:
I should know with the amount of time ive been betting but ive never taken much notice.

Had a bet with Ladbrokes. Noticed it had come up with a 5p rule 4 so I looked at what had been withdrawn and the horse with them was 22/1 at the time of withdrawal. So for me anything over 14/1 should be no deduction. Then the fav got withdrawn at the time of withdrawal with them was 3/1 so that should be 25p but they've added another 30p withdrawl so 35p in total.

The only thing I could think of is they dont use their own prices for deductions and that somehow its done across the board. If thats the case it sucks as youre bringing in bookmakers laying at shorter odds who are putting on extra places. To my mind they have just robbed me of 10% of any winnings (likely to be nil ). Can anyone clarify where they take the rule 4 from in not their own book ? Seems like madness to me.
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Happened to me last week with Hill's deduction for a 25/1 N/R.
 
reet hard said:
Happened to me last week with Hill's deduction for a 25/1 N/R.
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Did they put it right Reet ?

As it turned out my deduction ended up being £1 in the pound because I couldnt pick my nose atm. But ill be checking any rule 4s I recieve in future never bothered before because I didn't think it was something they'd mess up.
 
The rule 4 came into existence when bookmakers worked to reasonable margins and were fair. Now they take the mickey and still take the same terms. they adjust prices at the off. As the Barstewards say it's like a casino saying 'No more bets' looking at their liabilities and saying 'this roll is 8-11 red and 6-5 black. Disgraceful behaviour..
 

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