Sean Quinn - The Quinn Family

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Does this man think he is God or what? How many people will attend the upcoming rally on the 14th after today's further revelations? Is it just Ireland that the more dishonest you are the more you are respected? Who would let their son rot in jail for that long whilst having the ability to get him freed at the stroke of a pen? Words fail me with this man.
 
Has brainwashed many. The GAA connection particularly irks me. After all the turmoil Mickey Harte has gone through, he should have more on his plate than being on a stage supporting this gombeen
 
The hoofling of dough from the Russian property companies is nothing short of theft. All three need a decent stint in the Joy!
 
I feel very sorry for the Quinn family, I got to know Peter Quinn senior through the GAA and have always found him to be a complete gentleman and a man who was a good friend to our club in difficult times.

In truth, how many of us can honestly say that placed in a similar position we too wouldn't have tried to place some asset beyond the reach of a liquidator?
 
Let's put aside the Anglo loan for a minute...read this from the Irish Times:

TAKE ALL the money raised this year by the cuts in child benefit. And from cutting the school clothing and footwear allowance. And all the cuts to jobseekers' benefit, rent supplement and fuel allowances for the elderly.

Throw in the restriction of one-parent family allowance to children under seven. Pile on all the cuts in back-to-education allowances and community employment schemes. Take all of that money from the pockets of the poorest people in Ireland this year and you still haven't reached the amount Seán Quinn agrees he owes the Irish taxpayer.

This is nothing to do with the €2.3 billion he borrowed from Anglo Irish Bank to buy its shares. This is the €455 million he borrowed to buy property - using that property as security. In all the noise and distraction, this much is undisputed: Quinn borrowed the money and put up the property assets as collateral. The State, however idiotically, took over that loan. Since Quinn can't pay it back, the Irish people now own those properties.

There is something else that is not in dispute: that Quinn is openly, flagrantly and quite proudly trying to hang on to this money that belongs to us. As he said on Sunday, he took a "very conscious decision" to do "everything in our power to take as many assets as we could"�. The basic intention is very simple - to transfer assets from the Irish people to the Quinn family.

Thus, for example, the status of Karen Woods, a part-time receptionist with Joe Duffy Motors in north Dublin, as recipient of one of the largest public salaries in Ireland. The lucky Karen, then the girlfriend (now the wife) of Seán Quinn jnr, was paid €320,297 after tax (the equivalent of at least €400,000) last year by a Russian company whose assets belong entirely to the Irish people.

This is more than twice what the Taoiseach is paid, with the added refinement that there is no evidence of what work Woods does in return for this salary. Every cent she got, and every euro of the €455 million, is money kept from a State that is, for example, struggling to provide services for young people with intellectual disabilities.

At the same time, but completely separately, every Irish person or business who takes out home, motor or commercial insurance is having to pay the price, quite literally, for Seán Quinn's mismanagement of his insurance business.

For at least the next 12 years, every time any of us takes out insurance, we will have to pay an extra 2 per cent to recoup the approximately €1.1 billion Quinn lost in his gamble on Quinn Insurance. Thus, even when we leave aside entirely the €2.3 billion Anglo loan, Quinn's actions are siphoning €1.5 billion from Irish taxpayers, consumers and businesses.

So all this Anglo stuff is (in my view) clouding the other reckless behaviours of Quinn..

Then let's put the actions related to the Anglo loan back on the table. He voluntarily entered into this action. Sure it was illegal on Anglo's side. But he did it in anticipation of great gains. He would have trousered the upside, now he doesn't want to pony up for the downside.

And has everybody read the High Court ruling on Peter Quinn? His jailing was not for the Anglo affair, it was for "outrageous" contempt of court.

I find the whole affair puzzling. I am going to sound like a melodramatic lunatic, but it has actually done more than anything to cause me to lose faith in Irish people.
 
Quinn is fast becoming my public enemy no. 1

It will be interesting to see, following the recent revelations as to how they have been redirecting assets into their coffers, how many sad fuckers turn out at the rally in Cavan on Sunday.
 
Are these revelations recent ? I had thought all of this stuff has been well known for some time.

Bar, you are being melodramatic. Irish people are no better or worse than anyone else. One of the more exasperating things though is the disconnect for a lot of people between personal and local loyalties and the wider picture that is so well illustrated in the article you quote.
 
Quinn is fast becoming my public enemy no. 1

It will be interesting to see, following the recent revelations as to how they have been redirecting assets into their coffers, how many sad fuckers turn out at the rally in Cavan on Sunday.

He is fast becomming public enemy no 1 end of. Having been involved in the property circus (in a tidying up capacity not speculating I might add) for the last four years I have met planty of these Sean Quinn types. Arrogant, self centred egotistical maniacs who couldn't give a damn about law or ethics. These people genuinely believe they are entitled to houfle as much dough as they possibly can....it's all the banks fault. My arse. Anyone who could leave their son rot in prison for this long says it all. His daughters are now singing the same theme tune. I hope Anglo nail him to the mast!!!!

My grasp of the english language is disimproving at a rate of knots...I put it down to the company I'm keeping...
 
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Sean Quinn could have sold up years ago and mainatained whatever lifestyle he wished for the rest of his life and quite a few generations of Quinns behind him. Ergo any decisions he took to expand his business interests were merely done on behalf of his workforce, the local communities and the nation in general.

To hunt him down and demonise him for trying to keep a mere slice of his hard earned fortune is almost unpatriotic.

It is like if you got a hot tip for a horse at the races and put a tenner on it for your mate who had gone up to get drinks, and couldn't be consulted. The mate then is appalled when you insist he gives you the tenner when the horse, through sheer misfortune, is beaten.

I think that is the logic the Quinn familly are using.
 
Sean Quinn could have sold up years ago and mainatained whatever lifestyle he wished for the rest of his life and quite a few generations of Quinns behind him. Ergo any decisions he took to expand his business interests were merely done on behalf of his workforce, the local communities and the nation in general.

To hunt him down and demonise him for trying to keep a mere slice of his hard earned fortune is almost unpatriotic.

It is like if you got a hot tip for a horse at the races and put a tenner on it for your mate who had gone up to get drinks, and couldn't be consulted. The mate then is appalled when you insist he gives you the tenner when the horse, through sheer misfortune, is beaten.

I think that is the logic the Quinn familly are using.

:lol::lol::lol: - great post
 
Sean Quinn could have sold up years ago and mainatained whatever lifestyle he wished for the rest of his life and quite a few generations of Quinns behind him. Ergo any decisions he took to expand his business interests were merely done on behalf of his workforce, the local communities and the nation in general.

To hunt him down and demonise him for trying to keep a mere slice of his hard earned fortune is almost unpatriotic.

Reminds me of Mr. Burns from the Simpsons.

Homer: You're the richest guy I know.
Burns: Ah yes, but I'd trade it all for a little more.
 
I don't mean to defend Sean Quinn by any means (I would largely agree with On The Bridle), but I've been amazed by how many apparently shrewd businessmen were undone by contracts for difference, whatever about the various bank's reckless behaviour.
 
I don't mean to defend Sean Quinn by any means (I would largely agree with On The Bridle), but I've been amazed by how many apparently shrewd businessmen were undone by contracts for difference, whatever about the various bank's reckless behaviour.

That statement would be undisimproved if you changed the words shrewd businessmen to greedy bastards.
 
Brother to the chief Muppet, Peter was very eloquent referring to all the "bollixes" in the Dail (True but not very inspiring :rolleyes:)
 
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