Spain: Crisis in Monarchy.

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As King John Charles has decided to retire this house proposes that "it is now time to remove the trappings of Monarchy from Spain and return to a Republican government where equality and the needs of the citizen are at the centre of polciy."

Discuss.
 
After a long period and healthy problems, it is time for his son,

The republic has been tried with known results.
 
As in all things in life, they're fu*cked if they do, and they're fu*cked if they don't.

Democracy is a flawed concept, based - as it is - only on the illusion of choice, and absolute dictatorship is the way forward. To make it work, it needs to be global, and I'm happy to throw my hat in the ring for the role of Supreme Leader.

For my first mandate, I propose the following:

1. The Flat will be outlawed, as will breeding from any stock other than Montjeu.
2. The role of 'Village Idiot' will be created for all conurbations within 150 miles of Newmarket, to compensate for job losses caused by Mandate 1 - save for the Metropolis of London, where clivex will receive the title 'Idiot Emeritus' and will serve a life-term.
3. The Metropolis of London shall henceforth be renamed as 'Clivetown'.
4. Absolutely no fat chicks.
5. I may allow some fat chicks.

Start a movement.
 
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1a. As a result of Mandate 1 (point b), horse racing - of any form - will cease to exist within 10 years maximum. :cool:
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6. Freely expressed thought and/or questioning of the Supreme Leader's logic is prohibited, and carries a sentence that is both cruel and unusual.
 
an capall said:
As King John Charles has decided to retire this house proposes that "it is now time to remove the trappings of Monarchy from Spain and return to a Republican government where equality and the needs of the citizen are at the centre of polciy."

Discuss.
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Load of bollocks

Countries with monarchies. Uk, Denmark, Spain. Belgium, Sweden, Netherlands

All basket case states of course. As if

I'm no monarchist at all, but it makes not the slightest difference

Sectarian identity politics, religious domination and socialism fck up states not some barely relevant head of state . I think there is just a little bit of evidence

Spain was and is screwed by economic mismanagement and eu membership. Not its monarchy.
 
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an capall said:
As King John Charles has decided to retire this house proposes that "it is now time to remove the trappings of Monarchy from Spain and return to a Republican government where equality and the needs of the citizen are at the centre of polciy."

Discuss.
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He's just gutted that Atletico Madrid won La Liga:D
 
Although I agree with Clive's point that a monarchy does not mean a lack of equality for citizens, it would have been just as easy to come up with an alternative list of monarchies.

Saudi Arabia, Thailand, Qatar, the Vatican, UAE.

So the list means bugger all.
 
No it doesnt. . They are absolute monarchies and spain isnt. Your list is completely irrelevant
 
But doesn't a monarchy, titular or otherwise, position negativity into the self esteem of the citizen? Always knowing that you are a class below a fellow citizen must impede the onward march of a nation?
 
As I say, am against in principle but no not really

You have to argue that the self esteem of the Dutch is less than the Germans say? Or the Swedish less than the Swiss?

You can hardly argue that uk Sweden and holland have not "marched on". Not exactly backward states I would venture
 
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clivex said:
As I say, am against in principle but no not really

You have to argue that the self esteem of the Dutch is less than the Germans say? Or the Swedish less than the Swiss?

You can hardly argue that uk Sweden and holland have not "marched on". Not exactly backward states I would venture
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But surely the 'great' only appear great because they keep us on our knees? let us rise!
 
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But surely the 'great' only appear great because they keep us on our knees? let us rise!
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Anyone stupid enough to bow down and treat berks prince Andrew and Harry Hewitt as somehow superior is probably best described as a blockhead anyway

Its unaccountability with power that keeps "people on their knees". The sort of unelected "government" suggested by retards like Russell brand for instance. Or it could easily be argued, sort of powers drubbed out by the eu commission.


Loss of democracy, however flawed, is the real issue.
 
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clivex said:
Anyone stupid enough to bow down and treat berks prince Andrew and Harry Hewitt as somehow superior is probably best described as a blockhead anyway

Its unaccountability with power that keeps "people on their knees". The sort of unelected "government" suggested by retards like Russell brand for instance. Or it could easily be argued, sort of powers drubbed out by the eu commission.


Loss of democracy, however flawed, is the real issue.
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But surely the eu commission (sic) is an unelected government is both form and substance? And that has been a long term source of peace, sense and economic growth for generations. I would prefer to have my decisions made by those incredibly talented people in Brussels any day of the week. Unaccountable or not. It's the Monarchy that I am questioning.
 
an capall said:
But surely the eu commission (sic) is an unelected government is both form and substance? And that has been a long term source of peace, sense and economic growth for generations. I would prefer to have my decisions made by those incredibly talented people in Brussels any day of the week. Unaccountable or not. It's the Monarchy that I am questioning.
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You are taking the **** aren't you?

I don't know where to start

Lets put it this way. I reckon the monarchy would have had a better grip of the European economy and what is required to make it work than the unlelected boneheads who sat sleeping at their desks whilst the euro crisis developed? Just about the worst mismanagement imaginable.

Incredibly talented? A chimpanzee would have had a better grasp


It is near enough a certainty under any measure that the euro zone states would all have had and would continue to have much stronger growth and prospects if the euro had never existed

The idea that economic growth and peace would not have existed without the eu is pretty laughable . I suppose Norway and Switzerland are sinking into an economic abyss whilst being permanently at war with their neighbours. "Sense"? Fcking hell...


Why are you bothered about the monarchy anyway? Wats the comparison for? They hold no power whatsoever. They do not damage people's lives.
 
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