Stupid Newbury

clivex

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Newbury is a course I like. The members stand is as good as any in the country and it has a particular atmosphere. Also as a guest member there, they are friendly and looked after us very well indeed

So what the fck are they playing at with the dress code?

If I was going to ban anything it would be tweed jackets and bright red cords. I know that is discriminating against inbreds but inbreeding can lead to psychosis and small brains as well as big ears and a wonky boat

Dangerous combination at the best of times
 
The claim that they are responding to 99% of their customers is blatantly untrue.Preferential skirt lengths -FFS-who do these people think they are.
 
Exactly. Am I in the one per cent that rather likes to see a nice pair of pins ? What bollocks
 
Probably the same tossers who thought that renaming it The Racecourse,Newbury was a brilliant idea that would have us all flocking through the turnstiles .

I have never quite understood how dress codes of this nature are meant to improve behaviour . Nearly all the worst behaviour I have seen on racecourses has been from groups of pissed up lads in suits and drunk women dressed up to the nines ( regardless of skirt length )

Racecourses don't seem to get that racegoers have an instinct for courses that are taking the **** ( and go elsewhere) .
York's success for example is a great deal due to that- they look after racegoers - plenty of good viewing and good quality reasonably priced food and drink .
 
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have never quite understood how dress codes of this nature are meant to improve behaviour . Nearly all the worst behaviour I have seen on racecourses has been from groups of pissed up lads in suits and drunk women dressed up to the nines ( regardless of skirt length )

Yep. The gang of blokes who only otherwise wear suits in court and stand in a big circle in everyones way just waiting for someone to "spill their drink"
 
It's a shame the Newbury officials don't take as much interest in the maintenance of their facilities as they do with what people are wearing. Then maybe two horses would not have been electrocuted last year.
 
Paraphrasing a bit but someone who used to attend almost very meeting said a couple of years ago that they would not be going any more because it was 'full of a*******s and run by a*******s. I didn't quite get what he meant at the time.
 
I was due to go on the 18th for the pre xmas weds, which is often a good card. Feeling bit like i cant be bothered now

Stuck something on my blog about this

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A business that has experienced financial difficulties seeks to alienate potential clients
 
Maybe this will open a few eyes, it's about time it does.

Have always been of the opinion, wear what you like, as long as it's not offensive to anyone else (as it shirts saying Die Whatever), or something like that. After all each to their own and my money is the same colour as a smartly dressed man in a suit. Only difference, my money will now be going elsewhere....

I have been racing hundreds of times and have always worn either jeans, with either trainers or a warm pair of outdoor walking shoes. And guess what, I've never once been evicted from the course because I've started a fight, got so drunk I can't stand or any other stereotype associated with dress styles. Have on occasions though, read about suit types being evicted for the above. What does that tell you.

Did write in to TML about 10 years ago, when still a teenage student and told them one thing I'd change in racing was scrapping the dress code. Only one who agreed was Big Mac! But do respect tradition and I wouldn't turn up at Royal Ascot in jeans, simply as I know it's not the done thing there. Will watch it on TV - can see more!

Will carry on going to all the courses who permit racegoers, regardless. Think Cheltenham have got it right - dress for the weather!

Right, rant over.
 
Ascot at a meeting last year had staff sticking orange stickers on people as they came through the gates as an indication that whatever they were wearing was not acceptable. The word 'Nazi' was spoken several times round the pre parade ring, and Ascot ended up refunding every one's entry money.
Newbury has long had opinions of itself way above what a lot of ordinary race goers think. How much were tickets for Premier for Saturday, £50 ish? £30 for Tingle Creek. Are you listening Newbury?
 
I stopped going to Newbury years ago. Always thought it was a dump.

All tracks could learn from places like York and Towcester. They know how to look after their customers.
 
Could learn from fontwell too. Made first visit there a couple of weeks back and it's a cracking place

I think kempton has the friendliest staff
 
Never been to Fontwell.

Only ever been to Kempton on King George day so always very busy (haven't been since Kauto retired).

Lingfield took me by surprise when I went, another lovely track and the people were very friendly.
 
Kelso excellent aswel, Friendly folk, Good viewing, Good food, Premier enclosure only £20
Quite different from my local track where I sometimes feel a bit disillusioned expecially with some of the stewards.
 
Greg Wood summed it up in Sunday's Guardian :

"Stephen Higgins, Newbury's managing director, said on Friday that complaints resulting from a new dress code at the track during the Hennessy Gold Cup meeting had been "a storm in a tea cup" and in one sense at least he is right. Now that the Hennessy is in the form book, Newbury will retreat from the spotlight until Betfair Hurdle day in February (always assuming, of course, that in the meantime it does not run any more races when there are dead horses in the paddock).
But in another sense this sad little episode does matter, because it is a reminder that even in 2013 there are still some corners of the racing landscape where it is forever 1950. While tracks like Cheltenham and Aintree are now determined to treat racegoers as valued customers, Newbury's attitude seems to be one of reluctant toleration: we're doing you a favour by letting you in at all, so do as you're told and don't get in the way.
The derision which was heaped on Ascot when it "stickered" racegoers at a meeting in January 2012 should have served as warning enough that the world has moved on from the days when divorcees were blackballed from the Royal Enclosure. As Charles Barnett, Ascot's chief executive, pointed out while issuing refunds worth £28,000 during the subsequent damage limitation exercise, "no customers should be expected to pay for such an experience".
But at Newbury, it seems, that is precisely what they expect, even on the Thursday of the Hennessy meeting when there are unlikely to be more than 5,000 paying spectators turning up in the first place. Its new dress code was the subject of what Higgins describes as a "soft launch" via "the website and various other channels" and includes rules on the length of skirts, collars on shirts (essential in the Premier Enclosure), smart denim, which is banned in the Premier, and even fancy dress (fine in the Grandstand, forbidden in the Premier).
The detail is not really the point, though. Cheltenham does not bother with a dress code at its Festival meeting and Newbury's insistence that a code is necessary for a far less significant meeting is patronising and contemptuous, suggesting that ordinary men and women cannot be trusted to dress themselves. The result is an implicit insult to every racegoer as they arrive at the gate, whether they pass or fail their outfit inspection.
What Newbury has failed to appreciate, or has not bothered to find out, is that most people do dress up a little when they go to the races. For many of the six million people who go racing annually it is just that: a once-a-year experience. Dressing up adds to the sense of occasion. But it is a matter of choice not compulsion and, if others turn up at a racecourse in late November wearing jeans, that is up to them.
Ultimately, and like so many of the debates and squabbles which arise in racing, this one has its origins where the old in racing rubs against the new. Racing was devised as a sport for the elite in a society with an upper class and a working class and precious little between. It is still in the process of transforming itself into a modern entertainment for the masses and the pace of change is much faster in some areas than in others.
Nicky Henderson's suggestion earlier in the week that he is struggling to find suitable novice chase opportunities for many of his horses is yet another example of a fault-line between old and new.
It was an odd claim for a couple of reasons, an obvious one being that, as the British Horseracing Authority later pointed out, there have been, and continue to be, regular beginners' chases and novice events in the calendar which are open to all. Few, however, have included a runner from the Henderson yard. But it is also true that the fields for many novice chases remain small, which hardly suggests that there are not enough in the programme.
Henderson's career dates back to a time when chasers were often stores that did not see a track until five or six, and few National Hunt trainers enjoyed the facilities which leading stables now take for granted. Fitness was sometimes a relative concept and, while horses could and did run every three or four weeks throughout the winter, it was often the only way to build and maintain their fitness for the big meetings in the spring at a time of the year when it could be very difficult to do much with them at home.
It is to Henderson's credit that he has adapted and prospered as jump racing has changed over the last 20 years, so much so that last year he won the trainers' title for the first time since 1987. The old belief that promising recruits to chasing deserve to kick off with a couple of bloodless wins to "learn their trade", however, is like the Newbury dress code: an idea which belongs in the past."
 
I'm not posh like lots of you, but in the 70s and 80s Newbury was as fine a course to attend as any in the land. Then they did what many courses have done.
They made part of the Silver Ring (which I generally attended) part of Tattersalls in about 1990. That is a lose-lose situation. They let people into Tattersalls who then have to stand in the old Silver Ring, and those lesser types who went into the Silver ring have their value devalued because they are miles fom the finish.
The Spring meeting. Friday and Saturday, was a meeting for those who really love racing. After 1990 I did not return.
Nothing surprises me about what they are doing now.
York did exactly the same. Racing has never cared about the real racegoer. It's all about booze and bums.

I always had a simple idea (which many of you would think simple I'm sure) and that is to move the finishing post 50 yards up the straight. Then the lose-lose is not so bad.
 
just to prove that racing insiders always stick together, Simon Holts column in the weekender on this was a bit sit on fence and had the stupid claim that "dressing smart" stops "bad behaviour"

what?

Made me think of Big mac. For all his faults, he would not start an opion and then nervously backtrack in case some suit was offended
 
bit surprised at Holt..how old is he about 60?

this type of "clothes relating to behaviour" is the sort of thing i was brought to believe when i was a kid in the 60's..he must be a right numptie buying that nonsense.
 
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