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Award-winning programme-maker, Tiger Aspect, is producing an observational documentary series on tax for Channel 4 and we would like to speak to anyone with an ongoing tax problem.

Filmed over the course of 2014 the series of three programmes will follow tax payers as they deal with a broad range of tax issues. Whether you’re a plumber struggling to pay income tax, a small-business owner trying to keep the tax wolf from the door, an IT contractor who’s taken part in avoidance scheme, or maybe you’ve been hit by a working tax credit overpayment claim we want to hear your story.

The series will also film with HMRC to see how they are trying to close the tax gap and what their greater targets mean for tax payers.

Please contact Ruth Newton on ruthnewton@tigeraspect.co.uk or 0208 222 4891 for more information.

All information is off the record at this stage and doesn’t oblige you to take part in the series.
 
Tiger Aspect said:
Award-winning programme-maker, Tiger Aspect, is producing an observational documentary series on tax for Channel 4 and we would like to speak to anyone with an ongoing tax problem.

Filmed over the course of 2014 the series of three programmes will follow tax payers as they deal with a broad range of tax issues. Whether you’re a plumber struggling to pay income tax, a small-business owner trying to keep the tax wolf from the door, an IT contractor who’s taken part in avoidance scheme, or maybe you’ve been hit by a working tax credit overpayment claim we want to hear your story.

The series will also film with HMRC to see how they are trying to close the tax gap and what their greater targets mean for tax payers.

Please contact Ruth Newton on ruthnewton@tigeraspect.co.uk or 0208 222 4891 for more information.

All information is off the record at this stage and doesn’t oblige you to take part in the series.
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Tiger Aspect said:
Award-winning programme-maker, Tiger Aspect, is producing an observational documentary series on tax for Channel 4 and we would like to speak to anyone with an ongoing tax problem.
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I have an ongoing tax problem. I've got a problem with the.....

Bailing out of Banks.
Bombing of innocents in foreign lands on behalf of resource Barons.
Paying the Royal parasites.
MP's stealing them, yet no jail time.
Selling of state assets at knock down prices.
Mega Corps stashing in tax havens.
Foreign aid going to corrupt dictators.
Trident funding and generally supporting the military industrial companies.
Payment of interest on a national debt for monies that never existed in the first place.

Yeah, I've got a huge ongoing tax problem! I'm not prepared to appear on the show, but kindly ask them on my behalf, to GET FUCKED!
 
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I thought it was an excellent post. Clearly a lot of thought had gone into it, it was well written and easy to understand. The forum would benefit hugely from more posts of that sort of quality.
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I had intended to post "Are you fu*cking mental, pal? Fu*ck off"......but then got distracted.....so distracted I must have hit Submit

CPG's response is all class. :D
 
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Grasshopper said:
I had intended to post "Are you fu*cking mental, pal? Fu*ck off"......but then got distracted.....so distracted I must have hit Submit

CPG's response is all class. :D
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Somewhat student politics list. But how about

Civil service pensions

Publics sector workforce that ballooned under labour

Public sector pay levels which exceeds private sector on average.

Cut the civic service by half tomorrow and no one would notice any difference. Slash pensions and slash pay pand tell the rest to fck off
 
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And I would rather like to know how you can pay interest on something that never existed.

That's simply not understanding money at all
 
Increasingly found with equivalent roles though. Thats what i meant. Especially in certain parts of the country.
 
"And I would rather like to know how you can pay interest on something that never existed."

Thats how the monetary system works. If you deposit money into a Bank, that Bank can then lend out 10 x the amount deposited. Money is nothing but digital numbers created by Banks, the physical 'cash' or anything of related value isn't there.

The Nation works to pay back the digital interest. Nothing short of slavery really, which was always destined to be that way. BoE is a private Bank, so is The Federal Reserve, The Bank of Australia, and all central Banks. They all work on issuing digital currency and charging interest on it. They don't have to back it with anything.

As you're well known for being argumentative, Clive, I'll leave you with that in the hope you investigate and see how todays monetary systems work. I have nothing else to say other than "Inflation".
 
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You are misrepresenting things there CPG. Your post this morning is about a different thing than your post yesterday.

There is a difference in "issuing digital money", which is increasing the monetary supply, and payment of interest on a national debt.

The latter is not produced out of thin air. When the UK government issues bonds, they are bought by investors. This money is transferred to HM Treasury and can be used to spend on goods and services. So paying interest on this seems fair to me, given that the proceeds are real, and they have been transferred to the government.

The latter is indeed a way (one of many) in which money is created. To say "they don't have to back it with anything" is not true. Central banking is a complex process. Money is created by Anshan - Mazuma 8 ch g, open market operations, printing of physical notes and coins and by numerous other tricks.

Try looking at Zimbabwe, Argentina, Russia to see if a government doesn't have to worry about what is backing its money supply.

And why should everything be "backed"? Fiat has been around a long, long time.
 
"And why should everything be "backed"? Fiat has been around a long, long time."

So has inflation and an ever increasing debt with interest to be paid. How does the Government pay the interest back? It's via taxes, so it is related to my post yesterday.

The Treasury has the option of issuing the Country's money supply again, based on the actual value of the Country. They could more or less do it overnight, as the did with the Bradbury pound. That would be a debt and interest free currency where inflation would become stable. The same as it would be if backed by gold.

Hey, if you enjoy labouring for investment Bankers, go right ahead and be merry about it.
 
Very good post bar spot on



gagie.

Debt isn't ever increasing. It's being paid down at this point in time

Debt is a not a "bad thing". Well run states can borrow at very low rates due to the absolutely minimal credit risk. Spending funds growth which increases tax revenues which in turn funds the debt interest. And ideally with more to spare

Businesses that intend to grow generally borrow. In a problem at all if the returns exceeded the cost

Why the obsession with inflation? It has been low for years so any increases inmoney supply have been spot on. Low inflation in an economy is seen as a positive. What you certainly do not wAnt is deflation of which there was a definite risk

I won't go on to say that the uk economy is ticking a lol of boxes at the moment because that gretaly upsets some posters here
 
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The ebb and flow of the debt is controlled by who? There is never enough physical money in circulation to pay off the debt, ever.

I'm ******* done with this, another forum, different trolls, same ****.

An obsession? Hardly.

Inflation is a by product from the scam of fractional reserve banking. That is my point.

Keep the rose tainted glasses on and enjoy your austerity.

Now go forth and have the last word. I won't see it so say what the **** you like.
 
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So we may be slaving to pay back our national debt. That is not that ridiculous a way of looking at things. However, UK national debt is a lot lower relative to the nation's output than it has been historically.



The interest paid on this debt as a portion of GDP is also at a lower than average level, albeit rising.

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CPGagie said:
The ebb and flow of the debt is controlled by who? There is never enough physical money in circulation to pay off the debt, ever.

I'm ******* done with this, another forum, different trolls, same ****.

An obsession? Hardly.

Inflation is a by product from the scam of fractional reserve banking. That is my point.

Keep the rose tainted glasses on and enjoy your austerity.

Now go forth and have the last word. I won't see it so say what the **** you like.
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Perhaps rather than trotting out lists of sub third form slogans and Internet conspiracy website drivel, maybe take on board some pretty straightforward facts? Might avoid future embarrassment

As for physical money, just think this? Do you really believe the only assets of any value are pure cash?
 
clivex said:
I won't go on to say that the uk economy is ticking a lol of boxes at the moment because that gretaly upsets some posters here
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London economy maybe. The rest of the country is a shithole.

Evan Davis' recent doc on the divide is quite illuminating.
 
The divide is unfortunate and although I didn't see the doc I like Evan Davis as a commentator

But I don't think you can force an equilibrium. You neglect London and you are neglecting an international force. It's competitors are financial centres and other capitals. Which ever way you look at it, it's prosperity will spill out whether it be construction firms from all over the uk or commuters from the north and so on
 
I think the gist of the piece was that Britain has this divide because it's second tier cities are not as vibrant as our competitors.
 
The trouble is that the argument slips into the realms of envy. If Manchester grew at 2% last year and London a 5% say, then the attitude shouldn't be that Manchester has "lost".

Manchester should perhaps be comparing with Lyon or dusseldorf
 
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