Terrorist In Action In Madrid

sunybay

sunybay

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5 bombs have exploted in 5 petrol stations in Madrid.


Our "friends" of ETA have acted today to celebrate they are in coaltion in the parliment with our outstanding prime minister ZP.

Aznar is the one who will be responsabilitated of this for sure and Bush should have acted also.
 
A very interesting article in the Times last week about how the People's party are still trying to blame ETA for the train bombings despite the evidence .

Apparently the Spanish police, army and security services don't believe that it was the work of anyone but the Islamic fundamentalists doesn't stop Aznar and friends
 
I didnt blame the inept Zapatero.
I just said that the parties of the terrorist are the partners of ZP in the parliment.

About the Army in Pais Vasco,
English acted with their troops in Ireland and there were no problems.


About the information you talked about ETA,I find it simply pathetic the thinking you have of these fucking terrorist outside of Spain.
 
Originally posted by sunybay@Dec 3 2004, 07:30 PM
I didnt blame the inept Zapatero.
I just said that the parties of the terrorist are the partners of ZP in the parliment.

About the Army in Pais Vasco,
English acted with their troops in Ireland and there were no problems.


About the information you talked about ETA,I find it simply pathetic the thinking you have of these fucking terrorist outside of Spain.
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What do you mean ? I don't support ETA or its methods Bombings like today are appalling

I do regard Aznar's attempts to justify the deliberate attribution of the train bombings to ETA when all the evidence points to Islamic fundamentalists with contempt . He blamed ETA for political purposes which to the benefit of us all and most of all Spain, backfired spectacularly .
 
Ardross

As I see you dont follow closely the informations about what happened in the 11M.

Here the goverment is not interested in linking the arabs with ETA about that attack because they won the elections thanks to that.

Only one newspaper is investigating and the information are fuitfull.

I point you some facts:

The people that bought the explosives in Asturias have also sold some to ETA in the same time.

A car of ETA was stopped the week before the terrorist attack with people of ETA and maps of the zone were the atack was made.



The car was robbed in the same street as was robed the one islamist used to transport the explosive.



People of ETA and islamist did celebrate the dead of that 192 in the prisions here and some islamist have been found with telephone of people of ETA.



All the people implicated in this that the newspaper EL Mundo denounced are now in prision but the Socialist dont link it becasue they need the votes of all the independentist and comunist to stay as the Govern.



In fact ,one month before the elections, Rovira the main partner of ZP was caught in a meeting in Perpignan with the nº1 of ETA in a meeting where they agree in not killing people in Cataluña and yes in the ret of Spain.


People have tried not guilty Aznar of all the plagues of Spain here but he was on Monday in the Comission and he refuted all the allegations against him with proves.



As you can see many people is not happy with what is happening.
 
This has all been reported in El Mundo and dismissed by the Spanish police and security services as conspiracy theory run mad . There is no evidence to link ETA to the train bombings .
 
Originally posted by Ardross@Dec 3 2004, 08:41 PM
There is no evidence to link ETA to the train bombings .
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This is your opinion ,not what is being known and what the courts are saying.
Too many coincindences for my liking.
 
Judge Balthazar said only last week that there was no evidence and he did not expect there to be any evidence
 
Balthazar
are you talking about Baltasar Garzon?

If that is the case
he is not the most indicated to talk by 2 points:

First it is not his case but he is responsible for not condening one of the men that brought the explosives before the bombing attack.

And second, he has been of the socialist, he presented with them to one election some years ago thinking he was going to be minister with Felipe Gonzalez(who was the responsible of a terrorist band named GAL),he was the judge in that case but it was no a problem to present with them.



This judge is very famous here and likes to be in TV more than Kylie Minogue,he is also well known for instructing really badly the cases and allowing many criminals to be free.



Pathetic Man!
 
Also
If I am not wrong
you are a laywer or barrister.



Just what do you think about this:


the bombing attack was on March 11th in train station.


3 months earlier ETA members were arrested by the police in the biggest Madrid train station named Chamartin.


the week before of the attack ,2 ETA members were stopped near to Madrid with 500kg of explosives and maps of the zone where the attack was made a week later.


the car they were using was robbed in San Sebastian in the same street where the musulmans people of the attack robbed the one they used to transport the explosives.



The explosives of both people (ETA members and arabs) were robbed in the same mine in Asturias.


Really curious the same mine in Asturias and the smae street to steal the cars.


ETA members and arabs in prision celebrated the deaths of 192 together.


One of the arabs connected with the terrorist has been caught in prision with the telephone number of ETA people.




Finally add the people who has benefited from this terrorist attack and there have been 3 great beneficiaries:
Marocco,France and the spanish independentist.


Also note
Dont you think it is really extrange that the attacjk was 3 days before the elections.

Dont you find extrange that people was arrested only 1 1/2 days later than the attack.


I know you dont live here but one thing is for sure.

the day of the elections socialist said the goverment was hiding things and lying,now they dont say the same and they are not investigating to know the truth, the comission is a shame and dign of Cuba.

Only a newspaper has investigated and what they said 3 months ago is all being proven, the people they acuused of selling and buying the explosives are in prission and socialist are not very happy with all these things being proven.


The level of corruption of some police members upgraded by the new goverment being exposed is really frightining and the way the country is in recent months is really tense and pathetic.
 
Hi Brian

It is quite easy.

In Aznars times the relationship with England and especially with USA(Bush) was extremely good,we went to Iraq and we have some interesting contracts.

Chirac hated Aznar because he blocked the european constitution trying that the Niza agreement was executated but now with ZP as prime minister we agreed the Giscard Destain constitution where we are the most agraviated country with Poland in relation to Niza.

France is a allie of Marocco,as they have many economical interest with them and as you we have a lot conflicts with our south neighbor.2 years ago Marocco invaded a spanish island in the mediterraneum and France was with them , USA forced the situation but now they ar not in our side.




Add to this that we left Iraq like cowards insulting all the countries of the coallition and France is very happy with that.


Also there have some new army contracts for the Army with France and Germany recently and the ones signed with USA are broken.


The relation of Spain with USA is almost broken, socialist have been insulting Bush calling him assesin and thinking Kerry was going to be the new president ,ZP phone Bush to congratulate him for the elections and Bush didnt even responded the call, we have new friends in the abroad policy:Cuba and Venezuela.
There are many conflict with the ship factories here andd USA ,Australia and Israel have cancelled all the contracts and the USA are repering their ones now Portugal and Italy.



France is also very happy with socialist in the goberment, they want to close all the nuclear centrals and as you know France is plagued of them and will sell us the electricity.



Summing up France is very very happy.
 
Suny,

Your cretinous summation of the performance of the British troops in Ireland leads me to believe that you are a student of the Sesame Street School of International Relations

I think you should do some reading over Christmas
 
I fear I didnt express what I wanted


I have seen many times in TV the english troops in the streets of Belfast in the past.
What is the problem in saying this.

can anyone of the so offended explain it to me?
 
To An and Daniel

I dont know what do you have against me in this post and in all the others I do if you have a problem with tell and do stop writing insulting posts against.

Daniel
I know you are on up with Moscow Flyer winning but I have read much more than you in your life.
 
Suny, my debate with you is on an intellectual, not a personal basis. Your contention that,

English acted with their troops in Ireland and there were no problems.
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is an empty analysis, and your continuance that

I have seen many times in TV the english troops in the streets of Belfast in the past
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Sounds to me like you are making opinions based on picture and sound bites. I also strongly disagree with your opinions on Bush, Blair ,Aznar, Iraq and above all, Azertioup. But I defend strongly your right to hold them.

Your analysis of the Irish problem dilutes the authority of your opinions on others.
 
suny, it was your assertion that "English acted with their troops in Ireland and there were no problems". For starters there were innocent people being killed by the armed forces (not as many as were killed by the mad men of both sides, admittedly, but these were the forces of law and order) and the collusion of the military with one side to murder representatives of the other side....there's a lot more that could be said but one thing's for sure, it's incorrect to say that there were no problems.
 
Hi Brian,
lots of problems for sure,but the British Army was not one of them.
 
Unbelievable !

As Brian points out albeit far fewer casualties resulted form army action than from the terrorists on each side but to say that the army was not a problem beggars belief .

Collusion, Bloody Sunday , shoot to kill ...............
 
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