TH Ten To Follow Competition 2017 / 2018

Diamond Geezer · Oct 16, 2017

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The TTF competition this season runs from Wednesday November 1[SUP]st[/SUP] 2017 to Saturday April 28[SUP]th[/SUP] 2018 inclusive and this year is generously sponsored once again by swedish chef to the tune of £100 for the winner. The prize of £50 to the player with the highest scoring Dark Horse will this season be sponsored by Roddy Owen.

The rules and conditions for the Ten To Follow competition are as follows:

Each forum member may select A MAXIMUM OF THREE TEAMS.

For each team select NINE horses from the list of 200 horses below and add ONE Dark Horse i.e one horse of your own choice which is not on the list, TEN IN TOTAL. and add the name of the trainer FOR THE DARK HORSE ONLY. In the event a team is submitted which contains more than nine list horses, only the first nine horses will count.Each team shall have a different Dark Horse.

In each team no more than three horses, including the Dark Horse, shall be from the same stable. Any team subsequently found to have breached that rule once the competition starts will be disqualified.

Teams must be submitted in alphabetical order with the Dark Horse as Horse Number 10 and followed by the name of its trainer. (If I can put 200 horses in alphabetical order, you can manage ten !). Entries which have been "thanked" indicate the entry has been accepted. Note teams not in alphabetical order will not be accepted.

Please mark you teams as Team A, Team B and Team C

Closing date for entries is 12PM on Wednesday November 1[SUP]st[/SUP] 2017. In the event the Forum is down, entries can be posted on our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/talkinghorses.co.uk/ or alternatively email mrdiamondgeezer@outlook.com

Any disputes during the TTF competition the decision of Grey and myself will be final.

*** Whilst every effort has been made to ensure the list of 200 horses includes horses who will be running at some point during this season, this cannot be absolutely guaranteed. ***

Good luck everyone

Scoring

Points are awarded for National Hunt races in the UK and Ireland only and scoring is as follows, UK prize money in £ or Irish prize money in € as published in the RP.

In a race worth 100,000 or more to the winner, the winner scores 50 points.
In a race worth between 75,000 and 99,999 to the winner, the winner scores 40 points.
In a race worth between 50,000 and 74,999 to the winner, the winner scores 30 points.
In a race worth between 30,000 and 49,999 to the winner, the winner scores 25 points.
In a race worth between 25,000 and 29,999 to the winner, the winner scores 20 points.
In a race worth between 15,000 and 24.999 to the winner, the winner scores 15 points.
In a race worth between 10,000 and 14,999 to the winner, the winner scores 10 points.
In a race worth up to 9,999 to the winner, the winner scores 5 points.
In the event of a dead heat full points are still awarded but should any race be a walk over, no points are scored.

10 additional points will be awarded to the winner of any race at the Cheltenham Festival, plus the Aintree Grand National.
A further 15 points will be awarded to the winner of the Champion Hurdle, Champion Chase, World Hurdle, Cheltenham Gold Cup and the Aintree Grand National. (i.e 75 points in total, 50+10+15)

Ten points will also be awarded to any horse finishing second at the Cheltenham Festival and five points to any horse finishing third.

BONUS POINTS
Bonus points according to the official Tote Win Dividend in £ or € as printed in the RP for both Britain and Ireland, will also be awarded as follows. If no Tote Win Dividend is declared, the SP will determine any bonus points. Should neither a Tote Win Dividend nor a SP be returned, bonus points will not apply.

4 to 6...................4 points
Over 6 to 10........6 points
Over 10 to 14....10 points
Over 14 to 20....15 points
Over 20 to 33....20 points
Over 33...............40 points
Dark Horses will score DOUBLE bonus points.

The official result on the day will be used for the calculation of points with any subsequent disqualification disregarded
Points updates will be posted on Sunday evenings as of Sunday November 19[SUP]th[/SUP] 2017 and each evening during the Cheltenham Festival as well as other occasions where there is a significant change to the leader board towards the end of the competition. These may of convenience feature the top entries only.

In the event of a tie at the close of the competition, the player whose Dark Horse in that particular team has accumulated the most points shall be declared the winner. If there is still a tie, prize monies for the TTF will be divided equally amongst the players concerned.

No substitutions will be allowed for the duration of this competition, although amendments may be made to your ten to follow teams prior to the start of the competition by making a new posting up to the closing date and time.

The TTF will also count towards the Winter Competition, devised and sponsored by Grey, for which there is a prize of £100 to the player with the best combined performance in this and the Ante Post competition.

The Ante Post competition itself will be on a separate thread. Even if you do not intend to enter the Ante Post competition, this does not preclude you entering this one, all are welcome.

This year's list of horses

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Diamond Geezer · Oct 16, 2017

Grasshopper · Oct 16, 2017

Champing at the bit here!

Grasshopper 'A'
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[TD]Brain Power[/TD]
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[TD]Defi Du Seuil[/TD]
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[TD]Fox Norton[/TD]
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[TD]Great Field[/TD]
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[TD]Might Bite[/TD]
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[TD]Our Duke[/TD]
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[TD]Sizing John[/TD]
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[TD]Cracking Smart (Dark Horse - Gordon Elliot)

Grasshopper 'B'
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[TD]Fox Norton[/TD]
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[TD]Melon[/TD]
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[TD]Might Bite[/TD]
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[TD]Min[/TD]
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[TD]Our Duke[/TD]
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[TD]Petit Mouchoir[/TD]
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[TD]Sizing John[/TD]
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[TD]Bun Doran (Dark Horse - Tom George)

Grasshopper 'C
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[TD]Buveur D'Air[/TD]
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[TD]Defi Du Seiul[/TD]
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[TD]Finians Oscar[/TD]
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[TD]Great Field[/TD]
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[TD]Might Bite[/TD]
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[TD]Our Duke[/TD]
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[TD]Petit Mouchoir[/TD]
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[TD]Demopolis (Dark Horse - PJ Hobbs)[/TD]
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granger · Oct 16, 2017

What a time to be a member

When did you pick them Grass - July?

Grasshopper · Oct 16, 2017

:lol:

Not really, PJ. 90% of them self-select, so it's not anything like hard work pulling the list together (though C&H has obviously helped focus the mind).

Cracking Smart is one I'm really looking forward to this season. Have taken some fancy prices about the Supreme and the Ballymore - if everything works out, he will run wherever Samcro doesn't.

Neal1962 · Oct 17, 2017

Neal1962 Team A

Altior

Apple Jade

Buveur D’Air

Defi Du Seuil

Finian’s Oscar

Mount Mews

Pym

Sizing John

The Worlds End

Dark Horse : Air Horse One (trainer Harry Fry)

Will post my other 2 list after more thought.

Tanlic · Oct 17, 2017

Team A

DOUVAN
Buveur D’Air
Yanworth
Petit Mouchair
Thistlecrack
Politologue
Kaatskill Nap (DH)
Bellshill
Death Duty
River Wylde

Team B

Douvan
Yorkhill
Might Bite
Altior
Defi De Sueil
Wait For Me
Yanworth
City Dreamer (DH)
Politologue
Cliffs of Dover

granger · Oct 17, 2017

Shortage of Henderson horses Tanlic

Neal1962 · Oct 17, 2017

Neal1962 Team B

Barcardys

Coney Island

Great Field

Lalor

Native River

Our Duke

Unowhatimeanharry

Yorkhill

Dark Horse Let's Dance (Willie Mullins)

Neal1962 Team C

Altior

Charli Parcs

Cliffs Of Dover

Defi Du Seuil

Great Field

Nichols Canyon

Our Duke

Singlefarmpayment

Willoughby Court

Dark Horse Sizing Codelco (Colin Tizzard)

Neal1962 · Oct 18, 2017

Neal1962 said:
Neal1962 Team B

Barcardys

Coney Island

Great Field

Lalor

Native River

Our Duke

Unowhatimeanharry

Yorkhill

Dark Horse Let's Dance (Willie Mullins)

Neal1962 Team C

Altior

Charli Parcs

Cliffs Of Dover

Defi Du Seuil

Great Field

Nichols Canyon

Our Duke

Singlefarmpayment

Willoughby Court

Dark Horse Sizing Codelco (Colin Tizzard)

Checking my entries I found that team B has four from Mullins so if I swap Team B dark horse with team C, I should be within the rules.

Neal1962 Team B

Barcardys

Coney Island

Great Field

Lalor

Native River

Our Duke

Unowhatimeanharry

Yorkhill

Dark Horse Sizing Codelco (Colin Tizzard)

Neal1962 Team C

Altior

Charli Parcs

Cliffs Of Dover

Defi Du Seuil

Great Field

Nichols Canyon

Our Duke

Singlefarmpayment

Willoughby Court

Dark Horse Let's Dance (Willie Mullins)

Diamond Geezer · Oct 18, 2017

Neal1962 said:
Checking my entries I found that team B has four from Mullins so if I swap Team B dark horse with team C, I should be within the rules.

Neal1962 Team B

Barcardys

Coney Island

Great Field

Lalor

Native River

Our Duke

Unowhatimeanharry

Yorkhill

Dark Horse Sizing Codelco (Colin Tizzard)

Neal this team only has nine horses

Neal1962 · Oct 18, 2017

Sorry about that DH,

will amend my list to

Neal1962 Team B

Barcardys

Coney Island

Great Field

Lalor

Native River

Our Duke

Petit Mouchoir

Unowhatimeanharry

Yorkhill

Dark Horse Sizing Codelco (Colin Tizzard)

Diamond Geezer · Oct 18, 2017

Team A

Altior
Buveur D'Air
Chosen Path
Douvan
Gumball
Le Breuil
Politologue
Sizing John
Un De Sceaux
Apples Shakira (N.Henderson)

Team B

Apple's Jade
Djakadam
Faugheen
Jezki
Mia's Storm
Native River
Sizing John
Thistlecrack
Vroum Vroum Mag
Espoir De Teillee (N.Mulholland)

Team C

Barter's Hill
Benie Des Dieux
Cliffs Of Dover
Fayonagh
Jerrysback
Might Bite
Samcro
Sceau Royal
Yorkhill
Colreevy ( P M J Doyle but will be moved) Moved to W.P.Mullins

Maxbet · Oct 18, 2017

1)
Bacardys
Buveur D'Air
Faugheen
Fox Norton
Petit Mouchoir
Romain De Senam
Sizing John
Uknowhatimeanharry
Un De Sceaux
Espoir D'Allen (Gavin Cromwell)

2)
Altior
Bacardys
Buveur D'Air
Defi Du Seuil
Minella Rocca
Nichols Canyon
Petit Mouchoir
Uknowhatimeanharry
Un De Sceaux
Pallasator (G Elliot)

3)
Altior
Bacardys
Defi Du Seuil
Faugheen
Fox Norton
Minella Rocca
Nichols Canyon
Petit Mouchoir
Sizing John
Fix Le Kap (N Henderson)

Anadin · Oct 19, 2017

Team A

American
Ballyandy
Buveur D'Air
Brain Power
Faugheen
Singlefarmpayment
Topofthegame
Un De Sceaux
Willoughby Court

Brio Conti (P.Nicholls)

Team B

Altior
Buveur D'Air
Faugheen
Might Bite
Mohaayed
Petit Mouchoir
Sizing John
Waiting Patiently
Wholestone

Lifeboat Mona (P.Nicholls)

Team C

Barcardys
Fox Norton
Minella Rocca
Nichols Canyon
Monbeg Worldwide
Red Jack
River Wylde
Samcro
The Worlds End

Apples Shakira - (N. Henderson)

archie · Oct 20, 2017

Team A

Apples Jade
Disko
Douvan
Melon
Our Duke
Petit Mouchoir
Red Jack
Samcro
Sizing John
+ Chacun Pour Soi (W Mullins)

archie · Oct 20, 2017

Team B

Alpha Des Obeaux
Altior
Bacardys
Buveur D'Air
Cause Of Causes
Petit Mouchoir
Samcro
Sizing John
Yorkhill
+ Annamix (W Mullins)

archie · Oct 20, 2017

Team C

Altior
Apples Jade
Buveur D'Air
Disko
Douvan
Nichols Canyon
Our Duke
Sizing John
Yorkhill
+ Cool Getaway (G Elliott)

zongalero · Oct 20, 2017

A
Altior
Bacardys
Buveur D Air
Cause Of Causes
Defi Du Seuil
Getabird
Fox Norton
Might Bite
Sizing John
Dark Horse White Moon Colin Tizzard

B

Altior
Defi Du Seuil
Fox Norton
Great Field
Gumball
Movewithetimes
Sacro
Sizing John
The Worlds End

Dark Horse Cap Soleil Fergal O Brian

C

Buveur D Air
Death Duty
Defi Du Seeuil
Fox Norton
Jerrysback
Min
Monalee
Thistlecrack
Sceur Royale

Dark Horse Pallaskenry H De Bromhead

Euronymous · Oct 23, 2017

I think you're all mental making these entries now. One of my potential dark horses is entered up on Saturday and I aint putting my list up until I see how he runs.

Diamond Geezer · Oct 26, 2017

In accordance with rule which states "No substitutions will be allowed for the duration of this competition, although amendments may be made to your ten to follow teams prior to the start of the competition by making a new posting up to the closing date and time."

Diamond Geezer said:
Team C

Barter's Hill
Benie Des Dieux
Cliffs Of Dover
Fayonagh
Jerrysback
Might Bite
Samcro
Sceau Royal
Yorkhill
Colreevy ( P M J Doyle but will be moved)

Replace with

Team C

Barter's Hill
Benie Des Dieux
Cliffs Of Dover
Douvan
Jerrysback
Might Bite
Samcro
Sceau Royal
Yorkhill
Colreevy ( P M J Doyle but will be moved)

Marb · Oct 26, 2017

A

Altior
Brain Power
Champagne West
Defi Du Seuil
Mohaayed
Mr Big Shot
Mysteree
Sizing John
Waiting Patiently

Dark Horse - Stick To The Plan (Dan Skelton)

B

Altior
Brain Power
Champagne West
Defi Du Seuil
Mohaayed
Mr Big Shot
Mysteree
Sizing John
Waiting Patiently

Dark Horse - Viva Steve (Fergal O Brien)

C

Altior
Brain Power
Champagne West
Defi Du Seuil
Mohaayed
Mr Big Shot
Mysteree
Sizing John
Waiting Patiently

Dark Horse - Keep In Line (Alan King)

Aughex · Oct 26, 2017

Apologies DG, I didn't do it on purpose anyways, is this a new rule? I can't edit the initial post, there's no edit button. Listing again, hopefully they pass

A
Altior
Apple's Jade
Buveur D'air
Douvan
Faugheen
Might Bite
Samcro
Thistlecrack
Vroum Vroum Mag
Palmer's Hill (DH Jonjo O'Neill)

B
Altior
Charli Parcs
Coneygree
Death Duty
Faugheen
Nichols Canyon
Samcro
Sizing John
Un De Sceaux

Burbank (DH Nicky Henderson )

C
Altior
Blaklion
Djakadam
Faugheen
Fox Norton
Great Field
Samcro
Unowhatimeanharry
Yanworth
Counter Shy (DH Jonjo O'Neill)

Diamond Geezer · Oct 26, 2017

No not a new rule, we used the same rule last season.

redcat1 · Oct 27, 2017

A

Altior
Cause Of Causes
Defi Du Seuil
Douvan
Finian's Oscar
Might Bite
Red Jack
Samcro
Thistlecrack
Annamix (W.Mullins)

B

Altior
American
Cause Of Causes
Disko
Might Bite
Monalee
Native River
Samcro
Un Temps Pour Tout
Drumcliff (H.Fry)

C

Altior
Apple's Jade
Defi Du Seuil
Faugheen
Samcro
Thistlecrack
Singlefarmpayment
Uknowhatimeanharry
Wholestone
Ex Patriot (E.Holden)

TH Ten To Follow Competition 2017 / 2018

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