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The 2025 Glorious Goodwood Day 2 (Wednesday) thread

"Shades of Noalcoholic," says Ian, who is so old he can always resurrect a historical similarity from the Crypt of his mind.

What a game.
 
Ironic that JG fires the jock for misjudging the pace in the Guineas,then baallses up the pace for the same horse today.
 
I've missed most of the racing today as been up the hospital with the Mrs ( she's fine just more tests). Couldn't have been more surprised when signal hit and I saw the results today.

I did actually say yesterday that Witness stand was up against it giving Qirat 13lbs here last year that's a bit of an understatement now :)
 
I have never heard the place so quiet as it was after the Sussex! Stunned silence. And a bemused trainer.

Think the jockeys that allowed that to happen need their heads examining. I guess they thought he was a pacemaker and was a 7f horse who wouldn’t stay (to be fair physically he does look a 7f horse). I’m just gutted Levey didn’t get Rosallion rolling a bit earlier.

But I saw plenty who backed the winner and went down to see a friend in the next enclosure handing out huge wads of cash to punters.
 
Danny said:
I did actually say yesterday that Witness stand was up against it giving Qirat 13lbs here last year
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Danny has as good as napped a 270 winner on the machine there - it's all in the interpretation of the posting and everyone should have copped the lot.
 
Clearly one that got away for Rosallion.
Off day for Field Of Gold. Wouldn't have won regardless.
 
"Why did you turn down the ride on Field Of Gold today?"

"Because the trainer is an utter tool, with the man management skills of a baboon, and I didn't much fancy getting hung out to dry in public by him if things didn't go to plan."

Said no jockey ever.

Dettori, Shoemark, now Buick.

Only a matter of time before it's Keane's turn.

Who's next after that?
 
For the avoidance of doubt,these are the closing sectonals from the Susssex - taken from the onsreen timer,so easily verified.
6thf 11.81 secs
7th 11.44s
8h 11.12s
Downhill on good ground,1.12 secs above standard
Fast times,which wouldn't have been possible in a strongly run race, the obvious inference - it wasn't.,and a major factor in FOG's defeat yesterday,despite what his trainer (and Frankel) would have us beleive.. Aii facts and entirely consistent with his form to date,too.
 
You don't need sectionals to understand what happened yesterday. Eyes are also useful! That tells you he wouldn't have won yesterday regardless.
If you are seriously comparing his Newmarket run and his tame effort yesterday!
 
I was out all day and had to settle for watching the replays, unfortunately knowing the result. I've only just got round to checking the sectionals - sorry Slim! - but they back up all the criticism of the jockeys. Even the well-beaten Carl Spackler had a finishing section of over 110%.

Kingscote is an excellent rider of front-runners and I'd like to think he totally fooled the rest of the jockeys but it's sad that, between them, they couldn't muster up one brain cell or that one might have thought, "We're going really slowly here, I need to do something about it."

I mentioned quite recently something along the lines of 'so much for UK/Irish jockeys being the best judges of pace in the world' and this further serves to pour cold water on the idea.

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Not that its worth anything but I'd agree with Frankel on this one Reet. He's showed plenty of turn of foot in his previous outings and the ability to quick fair enough the winners had a soft lead but Roz and Henry have run with him and extended on him. It's a nowhere near what he's shown regardless of the pace.
 
Danny said:
Not that its worth anything but I'd agree with Frankel on this one Reet. He's showed plenty of turn of foot in his previous outings and the ability to quick fair enough the winners had a soft lead but Roz and Henry have run with him and extended on him. It's a nowhere near what he's shown regardless of the pace.
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OMG,you agree with the forum numpty..
He's shown plenty of foot - against slowimg horses, in truly run races..He got outpaced at Newmartket for the same reason as yesterday.
 
reet hard said:
OMG,you agree with the forum numpty..
He's shown plenty of foot - against slowimg horses, in truly run races..He got outpaced at Newmartket for the same reason as yesterday.
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🤣

Clueless lad. If you were gonna back Docklands, you should have done it at Ascot.

Spit.
 
reet hard said:
OMG,you agree with the forum numpty.
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I always think it a bit sad when people play the poster (usually because they've conceived an ongoing dislike for them), not the posting.

Anyone can make a valid point.

I could say it's funny Frankel is fond of referring to others as "underlings" when so many of his/her? postings make Frankel, in terms of racing/betting knowledge, look the biggest underling here of all, but maybe just maybe the derogatory term is tongue in cheek - harmless banter tbh.

Either way, I can see the sectionals and they don't lie, but focussing on where Field Of Gold sat in relation to Henri Matisse, who he'd clobbered at Royal Ascot, rather than myopically concentrating on where he sat in relation to Qirat, tends to suggest Field Of Gold wasn't at his best yesterday.

I wouldn't be in a rush to back him at a short price next time out - I don't do "drawing a line through that," poor performances happened, shouldn't be forgotten and affect future prospects.
 
Tbh if Frankel is the same guy as I think it is from years gone by (one of the originals from the dark arts movement) i thinks he's like you Ian in a way that he doesn't let on as much as he knows and understands more than most.

Mind tbf Reet knows his stuff to its just on this occasion I disagree with him, have been many others where I've agreed with his views.
 
Danny said:
he doesn't let on as much as he knows n
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I can always respect that - no one ever advanced their position in life by opening their mouth and while supergluing your cards to your chest never won anyone universal respect (which you can't buy food with) it often enables you to win more money (with which you can). 😂👍
 
Ian_Davies said:
I can always respect that - no one ever advanced their position in life by opening their mouth and while supergluing your cards to your chest never won anyone universal respect (which you can't buy food with) it often enables you to win more money (with which you can). 😂👍
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Summed up best by JP " Imagine all the fish in the world that would still be alive.....if they'd only learned to keep their mouths shut!"

Not something I follow I'm more of a sharing's caring, all for one, one for all type of guy but they are wise words non the less.
 
One of the best things about listening to the T2W music is that it’s rarely spoiled by a discordant note. It’s a quality that sets it apart.
 
Danny said:
Summed up best by JP " Imagine all the fish in the world that would still be alive.....if they'd only learned to keep their mouths shut!"

Not something I follow I'm more of a sharing's caring, all for one, one for all type of guy but they are wise words non the less.
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It's a great old saying, although it's usually the mafia that employ such code-of-silence tactics, but must work well for JP and partners. I'm not sure it works well as a motto for an Internet racing forum where debating is the name of the game.

Nevertheless, I think it was The Queen who used to say, 'never explain, never complain'. Again, I respect the motto, but I think too many of her democratically elected Prime Ministers took this saying a bit too literally. What works for a family isn't what works for a democracy.

And in the interests of not talking too much shite I'll stop right here.
 
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