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The 2025 Grand National

The Sweep isn't a big deal, to be fair.

There will be 300,000 entrants, so approximately 10,000 people per horse and if yours wins it's a 9,999/1 chance that you'll scoop the pot.
 
Topham was only 3.72s slow - there are times when it pays to admit I got it wrong and adapt.

They may well have chucked entire contents of the River Mersey on it, but it's soaked up all the irrigation and dried out like you wouldn't believe.

This brings Hewick, Minella Cocooner and any other spring-ground staying chasers right into it.
 
But they will water again this evening and tomorrow morning.

I don't think we were wrong about the going. They've been doing their damnedest to do as we've been saying but the combination of warmer temperatures and the breeze - the type of conditions that would have a clothes line of unspun terry nappies drying in an hour out the back garden - have been hampering progress.

But I accept too that they are doing the right thing in watering. I think the good-ground horses for tomorrow have now indeed got lucky. I imagine Hendo must be ruing not having a proper good-ground plot in the race this year. He's had a few down the line who have had their chances watered away.
 
Alex said:
I am not sure I should enter, it will be another horse I feel I have to back (lol).
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Desert Orchid said:
But they will water again this evening and tomorrow morning.

I don't think we were wrong about the going. They've been doing their damnedest to do as we've been saying but the combination of warmer temperatures and the breeze - the type of conditions that would have a clothes line of unspun terry nappies drying in an hour out the back garden - have been hampering progress.

But I accept too that they are doing the right thing in watering. I think the good-ground horses for tomorrow have now indeed got lucky. I imagine Hendo must be ruing not having a proper good-ground plot in the race this year. He's had a few down the line who have had their chances watered away.
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Doesn't Hyland fit the bill?
 
I can report that it had been dry and sunny, and my lawn is looking more brown by the day, if only I had a sprinkler 😃.
 
Nicholls season to be rescued in what's turning out to be a good week for him by winning the National again

Kandoo Kid

Each Way [six places]...currently 20-1
 
I've had a final dekko at the field and I'm fast coming to the conclusion that this could be a National for the ages.

Class horses, reasonable ground and the prospect of pace could see a host of horses in with chances coming into the final mile and a lot of them still there two out, like last year but I'm looking forward to see if the better ground actually causes them to thin out in the latter stages as the real class kicks in.

In a field of 34 I reckon any one of 30 could win (so get yer money on the other four!) and, for once, I feel as though I won't really mind of I'm not on the winner. It's just going to be a terrific race, hopefully with no hard luck stories and may the best horse on the day just win.
 
Alex said:
Hitman has been backed in from 150/1 to 33/1 with the bookies.
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Probably nothing to do with money for him. More likely because in his Betfair blog Nicholls gave it as his next best after Kandoo Kid (but I wouldn't believe a word he says and the horse would be more aptly called Shitman since he won't go past another horse in a finish with a red hot poker threatening his arse).
 
Desert Orchid said:
Probably nothing to do with money for him. More likely because in his Betfair blog Nicholls gave it as his next best after Kandoo Kid (but I wouldn't believe a word he says and the horse would be more aptly called Shitman since he won't go past another horse in a finish with a red hot poker threatening his arse).
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I give you credit Dessie, you don't hold back, you can't say that you stand on the fence. Perhaps he will be the only finisher and won't have to pass another horse (lol). I am on ew at 181/1, so I won't get to worked up, if he comes last 😅.
 
Got a sort of big position in this just because of throwaway rollovers:
Banprionsa (hcap chase in Ireland a few weeks back/Iroko double 3s and 8s (no BOG)
Lossiemouth/Minella Cocooner 13/8 and 14/s
Impaire et Passe/Minella Cocooner 5/2 and 14/1
Salvator Mundi/Perceval Leg' 7/2 and 12/1
Salvator Mundi/Hewick @7/2 and 10/1

Week of race NRNB bets on Beauport and Three Card Brag and 33s and 28s and I've just this minute added Intense Raffles just because the machine is over-reacting to the decent ground - 17 is way overs.

All that and my nap is Shin Emperor at Meydan. Funny game.
 
Robicheaux said:
As DO has alluded to above regarding class horses + reasonable ground, I can't let Conflated go unbacked ew at 125s.
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Go for it. There are worse 125/1 shots, but I’ve tried to imagine how he could win this and can’t really see it. Always used to think they had question marks about Gold Cup trip for him, so this should be too far.
 
Mr Whatoxo said:
Go for it. There are worse 125/1 shots, but I’ve tried to imagine how he could win this and can’t really see it. Always used to think they had question marks about Gold Cup trip for him, so this should be too far.
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If punters should have learned one thing from today's racing it is that G1 horses whose mark has been worked right down are worth having onside.
 
Mr Whatoxo said:
Go for it. There are worse 125/1 shots, but I’ve tried to imagine how he could win this and can’t really see it. Always used to think they had question marks about Gold Cup trip for him, so this should be too far.
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I totally get it, but I think him + the likes of Hitman, will be comfortable + travelling well within themselves no matter how fast they go on the ground. A matter how long they last. On said conditions. I can see some of the market leaders, who may prefer softer ground, or who are not natural jumpers of fences, struggling to keep up , thus putting their jumping under pressure.
Massive egg on face tomorrow eve🤣
 


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