The 2025 Welsh Grand National Handicap Chase

[Slim]

Please stop. The horse would be tailed off in a Gold Cup. If anything the horse has exposed how shit the staying handicap division is.

 

[Len Madeiros]

Please stop. The horse would be tailed off in a Gold Cup. If anything the horse has exposed how shit the staying handicap division is.

If it comes up soft, he could easily run into a place.

Him and Golden Ace are my each-way double banker for Cheltenham.

 

[Double J]

Haiti would have absolutely no chance in a Gold Cup.

Just got lapped by f$%^ing Grey Dawning. Stick to the staying handicaps.

Rest him up and send him Aintree off probably top weight

 

[Slim]

If it comes up soft, he could easily run into a place.

Him and Golden Ace are my each-way double banker for Cheltenham.

"If it came up soft"

That's not an argument.

 

[Double J]

If it comes up soft, he could easily run into a place.

Him and Golden Ace are my each-way double banker for Cheltenham.

Jesus Christ.

Golden Ace will be at the back of the tele come Cheltenham.

 

[Outsider]

I think it has every right to run in the gold cup.

 

[Ian_Davies]

Burrough Hill Lad, Cool Ground, Master Oats, Synchronised, Native River - I wouldn't want to lay the 33/1 (Bet365, Paddy Power & SkyBet) Haiti Couleurs for the Cheltenham Gold Cup.
I could see him going up to OR 161 for today, he will stay every yard, he goes on spring ground and he smashed standard by 8.26 seconds on the quickest ground I've ever seen for a Welsh Grand National.

In the event one of Inothewayurthinkin or Galopin Des Champs fails to stamp their authority on the Savills tomorrow, that 33/1 will disappear faster than the silver service cutlery at any event Walsworth is foolishly invited to.

 

[maureen]

If it comes up soft, he could easily run into a place.

Him and Golden Ace are my each-way double banker for Cheltenham.

Those are the sort of horses that have made me love NH racing for six decades!

 

[Len Madeiros]

"If it came up soft"

That's not an argument.

I don’t agree. Plenty of very good horses have been slowed down over their optimum distance at Cheltenham, allowing a plodder to steal a place.

 

[Double J]

I think it has every right to run in the gold cup.

If i owned him you’d send him, can’t begrudge that I guess. Itll just get lapped

 

[Len Madeiros]

Jesus Christ.

Golden Ace will be at the back of the tele come Cheltenham.

She saves her best for Cheltenham in the Spring (unbeaten), and is a reliable jumper of a hurdle. She is very underrated.

 

[Basil Pinenuts]

Probably been worse placed horses in Gold Cups - Conflated, Gentlemansgame, Minella Rocco

 

[Desert Orchid]

Please stop. The horse would be tailed off in a Gold Cup. If anything the horse has exposed how shit the staying handicap division is.

People said the same thing about the handicapper (OR 158 was it?) that ran Best Mate to a neck in the Gold Cup.

Cool Ground won it.

Nortons Coin won it.

Yahoo ran Desert Orchid close.

It can be a very iffy race and if you ain't in it you can't win it. HC will probably go up to at least 160 for today. That might get it to within 20 lengths of winning the Gold Cup on the good ground it seems to like. I think it's better than that but I wouldn't run it in the race. It might be better off targeting the Scottish National, a very decent prize in its own right.

 

[edgt]

The owners have the same right to dream as the rest of us ; the difference is they have a horse they can dream with.
If memory serves last year's winner had less done than Haiti has now at this stage of his career.
As DO says the Gold Cup can be a law onto itself, whatever beats the others wins whether it is the best horse ratings wise or not.

 

[Desert Orchid]

Another thing that found itself alone and rattling around inside my head this morning was that Haiti Couleurs might be a good thing for the Pertemps Final...

...before going for the Grand National à la Pineau De Re.

 

[Slim]

Another thing that found itself alone and rattling around inside my head this morning was that Haiti Couleurs might be a good thing for the Pertemps Final...

...before going for the Grand National à la Pineau De Re.

That would be sensational race planning.

 

[Basil Pinenuts]

Another thing that found itself alone and rattling around inside my head this morning was that Haiti Couleurs might be a good thing for the Pertemps Final...

...before going for the Grand National à la Pineau De Re.

Reminds me of when Anthony Knott said they had the option of the Novice Handicap Chase or Gold Cup for Hunt Ball, and they favoured the former. Think there's an ATR interview on YouTube somewhere.

 

[tiggers1972]

Haiti would have absolutely no chance in a Gold Cup.

Just got lapped by f$%^ing Grey Dawning. Stick to the staying handicaps.

Rest him up and send him Aintree off probably top weight

Haydock he was beat after 10 yards and was shown to have an issue with his back.

 

[tiggers1972]

Burrough Hill Lad, Cool Ground, Master Oats, Synchronised, Native River - I wouldn't want to lay the 33/1 (Bet365, Paddy Power & SkyBet) Haiti Couleurs for the Cheltenham Gold Cup.
I could see him going up to OR 161 for today, he will stay every yard, he goes on spring ground and he smashed standard by 8.26 seconds on the quickest ground I've ever seen for a Welsh Grand National.

In the event one of Inothewayurthinkin or Galopin Des Champs fails to stamp their authority on the Savills tomorrow, that 33/1 will disappear faster than the silver service cutlery at any event Walsworth is foolishly invited to.

Half that now.

 

[Slim]

Half that now.

And what? The horses implied chances have improved because the Savilles was a shitshow. Ask Mydaddypaddy antre post punters who were smug for a few weeks how they feel now.