The Novice Hurdlers

[Truncheon]

Back on the flat for Palladium after that

Not impressive at all

 

[LUKE]

Apparently they’ve another at home, Palladium? Who’s also special. (Won German Derby I think?)

Special in terms of price tag -not ability.

 

[jinnyj]

I only saw the closing stages but the ground looked like it didn't suit him at all. He could improve dramatically on good ground (does need to)

 

[viking]

Agreed not impressive but plenty of improvement to come I reckon

There needs to be as he was getting 13lb from the 50/1 second and I doubt the improvement will come soon enough for the Triumph

 

[LUKE]

I only saw the closing stages but the ground looked like it didn't suit him at all. He could improve dramatically on good ground (does need to)

I think it was an absolutely insane purchase at €1.4 million.He just isn't a natural hurdler -I would be more optimistic about his prospects as a flat horse.

 

[Tanlic]

Agreed not impressive but plenty of improvement to come I reckon

There needs to be as he was getting 13lb from the 50/1 second and I doubt the improvement will come soon enough for the Triumph

Lady Bamford should be renamed Lady Bampot...what was she thinking forking out that kind of money?

 

[barjon]

According to Henderson “ He will be going Flat racing and he is a potential stallion, we’re just having a bit of fun.” so on that basis it’s maybe not such a daft price.

 

[Ian_Davies]

It takes a good horse to beat Wolf Moon - after all, only six managed it in the Maiden Point at Mollington Wolf Moon ran in last May.

Palladium's German Derby form hasn't worked out too well, he was last himself (albeit to Rebels Romance) subsequently and I must admit my thoughts are: well sold at the price, today's form meaningless in terms of Pattern Jumps races, woukd have to be the worst Hardwicke ever and run in an unseasonal June quagmire for him to win it and likely to end up a Jumps sire, who at least won over Jumps, but not at any sort of meaningful level.

 

[granger]

I would rate this seasons novice crop a 6/10 so far

 

[Ian_Davies]

Baring Bingham Novices' Hurdle Six-Day Confirmations
Blue De Vassy
Final Demand
Forty Coats
Funiculi Funicula
Inn At The Park
Jacob's Ladder
James's Gate
Kaid d'Authie
Kappa Jy Pyke
KarbauKel Histoire
Kiss Will
No Questions Asked
Port Joulain
Potters Charm
Sixmilebridge
Sounds Victorious
Supersundae
The New Lion
The Yellow Clay
Whinney Hill
Wingmen
The Big Westerner

 

[Desert Orchid]

Timeform - latest update:

154P	KOPEK DES BORDES
149p	ROMEO COOLIO
148P	FINAL DEMAND
146p	THE YELLOW CLAY
143P	THE NEW LION
143p	TRIPOLI FLYER
142p	KAWABOOMGA
142p	WORKAHEAD
141p	SIXMILEBRIDGE
141p	WILLIAM MUNNY
141	AL GASPARO
140	POTTERS CHARM
137P	KARNIQUET
137p	SALVATOR MUNDI
137	BLEU DE VASSY
137	MR PERCY
137	OL MAN DINGLE
137	SUPERSUNDAE
136p	JAMES'S GATE
136p	KARBAU

[th]

NOVICE HURDLERS​

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[Desert Orchid]

Timeform - latest update:

154P	KOPEK DES BORDES
149p	ROMEO COOLIO
148P	FINAL DEMAND
146p	THE YELLOW CLAY
143P	THE NEW LION
143p	TRIPOLI FLYER
142p	KAWABOOMGA
142p	WORKAHEAD
141p	SIXMILEBRIDGE
141p	WILLIAM MUNNY
141	AL GASPARO
140	POTTERS CHARM
137P	KARNIQUET
137p	SALVATOR MUNDI
137	BLEU DE VASSY
137	MR PERCY
137	OL MAN DINGLE
137	SUPERSUNDAE
136p	JAMES'S GATE
136p	KARBAU

I've just done a wee bit of back checking. The three joint top Timeform horses going into last season's Supreme were rated no higher than 138.

Considering how modest they've turned out to be it's maybe worth noting that a solid assessment methodology can allow comparisons across generations.

Last year Tullyhill was top on ORs and Slade Steel (who won it) on RPRs.

I've also just watched the replay and noticed how Mystical Power pricked his ears when Tullyhill went past him. Maybe that was him saying fvck this for a game of sojers because he's looked this season to be out of love with the game.

 

[Ian_Davies]

11 declared for the Baring Bingham (Turners to some)

Final Demand
Forty Coats Darragh O'Keeffe
Kaid d'Authie
Kappa Jy Pyke
Kel Histoire
Kiss Will
Potters Charm Sam Twiston-Davies
Sixmilebridge Kielan Woods
Supersundae
The New Lion Harry Skelton
The Yellow Clay Jack Kennedy

 

[Desert Orchid]

THAT

IS

SHIT

HOT

FORM

 

[Truncheon]

Romeo is a banker for the Arkle next year

 

[edgt]

Cracking race with proper , proper horses in the first three.

 

[Gaz's Way De Solzen]

Said in the other thread that I have a feeling the front 2 home will go on to be pretty good horses.

 

[Ardross]

Shocking run from Workahead - doesn’t bode well for H de B this week .

 

[viking]

Did Workahead hurt himself when he made a mistake?

 

[Gaz's Way De Solzen]

Did Workahead hurt himself when he made a mistake?

You'd think something was wrong with him, he went out like a light, very quickly!

 

[Ardross]

Possibly but RB cantered him back rather than pulled him up .

 

[Ardross]

The Short Go ran well there in the Ultima .

 

[Ian_Davies]

20 declared for the Albert Bartlett.

Argento Boy
Ballybow
Derryhassen Paddy
First Confession
Fishery Lane
Flicker Of Hope
Inn At The Park
Intense Approach
Jasmin De Vaux
Jax Junior
Jet Blue
Jig’s Forge
Ma Shantou
Nativehill
Port Joulain
Sounds Victorius
Wendigo
Wingmen
Yellow Car
The Big Westerner

 

[Ian_Davies]

18 declared for the Triumph.

Blue Lemons
Charlus
East India Dock
Gibbs Island
Hello Neighbour
Larzac
Lulamba
Marche D’Aligre
Mondo Man
Pappano
Poniros
Too Bossy For Us
Willy De Houelle
Lady Vega Allen
Lumiere Du Large
Opec
Place De La Nation
Sainte Lucie

 

[jinnyj]

The Short Go ran well there in the Ultima .

He's a lovely horse in the flesh and one to keep on the right side of.