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The remaining November Meeting races at Cheltenham
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Danny
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Cracking shout Mr Davies.
News from Day 1
Chaumi probably the unluckiest guy inside of Cheltenham today smashing fella and had a good day but cruely missed out on a proper lump.
Pawras main bet of the day bolted in at Uttoxeter.
Jinny picked a couple of cracking winners including panic attack which was just so much fun for me as not only did I think it had absolute no chance but I ended up with the 2-3-4-5 on the trifecta, stood next to the lady who had every right to say I told you so but was too gracious to which probably made it worse. Add that to I'd had the 1-2-4 in the 1.10 on the trifecta which would have been a monster add to that 5 busted up other exotics and bits of place money off some others bets it was a bad punting day on my part. Only saved by the fact and f%*& me I hate to admit it but the day still ended up being a winning day down to UFSA and his Hung jury.
Overall a cracking day. Now if I can just get out of this Cell I can have another go tomorrow.
News from Day 1
Chaumi probably the unluckiest guy inside of Cheltenham today smashing fella and had a good day but cruely missed out on a proper lump.
Pawras main bet of the day bolted in at Uttoxeter.
Jinny picked a couple of cracking winners including panic attack which was just so much fun for me as not only did I think it had absolute no chance but I ended up with the 2-3-4-5 on the trifecta, stood next to the lady who had every right to say I told you so but was too gracious to which probably made it worse. Add that to I'd had the 1-2-4 in the 1.10 on the trifecta which would have been a monster add to that 5 busted up other exotics and bits of place money off some others bets it was a bad punting day on my part. Only saved by the fact and f%*& me I hate to admit it but the day still ended up being a winning day down to UFSA and his Hung jury.
Overall a cracking day. Now if I can just get out of this Cell I can have another go tomorrow.
Ian_Davies
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This pleases Your Favourite Uncle Smart Arse no end - roll on tomorrow!
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You’re working well, uncle.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
jinnyj
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A few for tomorrow but it will be a non watching day for me unless I can sneak a look on my phone as I shall be at Badbury Rings.
In the first Soldier Reeves was hugely fancied at Newton Abbot at the end of last month in the bumper and they looked furious that he got beaten (I flagged him up before) as they intended to "take in that race on the way to a decent hurdle at Cheltenham or Newbury" He's a bonny looking horse who should have won doing handstands and they fact that they are still pitching him in deep here, suggests plenty.
Joseph O'Brien runs a couple of interesting ex-Frenchie's straight off the dingy in Kim Roque and Klass Langy. Any remaining cut in the ground isn't going to bother either.
Bit disappointed in Venetia's so far this season as they look well - Tanganyika off 10.3 has to be of interest though.
I'm really not sure about Alexei in the Greatwood. Obv he's my Dark Horse and I really like him but he's definitely a good moving horse and I do have ground concerns as a result. He was bottomed last year I think when they ran him at Exeter on soft. I still think he's very good but the rain has dented my confidence although it should be drier on Sunday again. Mirabad with the weight and course form is a major plus. Also ALL of Skelton's horses are proper greyhound fit! Putapoundinthejar - Sean Bowen resuming winning partnership with him...
But I haven't gone through the race, I'm tired and its bed time!
Bud Fox has to be a cert in the last? Punchestown winner who easily beat todays winner, Celestial Tune that day.
In the first Soldier Reeves was hugely fancied at Newton Abbot at the end of last month in the bumper and they looked furious that he got beaten (I flagged him up before) as they intended to "take in that race on the way to a decent hurdle at Cheltenham or Newbury" He's a bonny looking horse who should have won doing handstands and they fact that they are still pitching him in deep here, suggests plenty.
Joseph O'Brien runs a couple of interesting ex-Frenchie's straight off the dingy in Kim Roque and Klass Langy. Any remaining cut in the ground isn't going to bother either.
Bit disappointed in Venetia's so far this season as they look well - Tanganyika off 10.3 has to be of interest though.
I'm really not sure about Alexei in the Greatwood. Obv he's my Dark Horse and I really like him but he's definitely a good moving horse and I do have ground concerns as a result. He was bottomed last year I think when they ran him at Exeter on soft. I still think he's very good but the rain has dented my confidence although it should be drier on Sunday again. Mirabad with the weight and course form is a major plus. Also ALL of Skelton's horses are proper greyhound fit! Putapoundinthejar - Sean Bowen resuming winning partnership with him...
But I haven't gone through the race, I'm tired and its bed time!
Bud Fox has to be a cert in the last? Punchestown winner who easily beat todays winner, Celestial Tune that day.
Ian_Davies
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I've been reviewing yesterday's racing for clues for today.
I attach yesterday's rail movement and, as we know, the usual Old Course second last was omitted on the Chase course.
Allowing for all that, and looking at the times, I'd say the ground wasn't actually THAT bad and the course took the rain really well.
I note the CoC only called it Heavy for one race (the second) and called it Soft the rest of the day.
The data I have supports that.
It doesn't dry out quickly this time of year, but it may be something between Soft and Good to Soft today and quite holding.
As for the racing, I have no involvement in the first, but will watch with great interest.
I've no bet on the second either, but I expect a decent run from Jordan's Cross, though he is currently too short a price to interest me.
I backed Glengouly in the third based on the assumption at the time it would be almost unraceable by the Sunday and, as stated, I'm less sure now that will be the case.
He should run ok, but my confidence is diminished - he stays a lot further and, by 2m chaser standards, he's a bit of a boat in my book.
In the fourth the Venetia Williams November Groupies have done nothing but give it back since Djelo and, on the face of it, her runner is plenty short enough.
But we are approaching the time she had a Saturday treble last year and, especially on bad ground, I'd still be giving her runners consideration at the very least between now and January - she may suddenly hit form and land an across-the-card multiple when many least expect it.
Fascile Mode is the one I've backed as I thought he was a bit too big.
He has stamina to prove, but he was only seven lengths behind yesterday's Paddy Power third Hoe Joly Smoke in a fair race here at the last meeting and is just about the only horse in the race who has a half-decent recent run to his name in a race over a trip where lack of hard race fitness may find out a few at the business end.
He's out of the handicap, and his jumping was sketchy last time, but he got round and if more fluent this time he might just step up on that.
The ground may be key in the Greatwood because, although from Germany, Alexei is unproven on bad ground.
The run that gives me faint hope is his fourth to the subsequently-smart Straight on "Soft to Heavy" at Baden-Baden as a 2yo, but he's done all his winning and shown all his real form on quicker ground since and it has to be a question.
This leaves me with no real view on the race as there's about six others I could give a chance to.
And the last race is, for me, a contest to watch and learn from.
With Fontwell Park's Southern National (see other thread), Auteuil (ditto) and if Navan and the Troytown (ditto) are on, it really will be "Super Sunday."
I attach yesterday's rail movement and, as we know, the usual Old Course second last was omitted on the Chase course.
Allowing for all that, and looking at the times, I'd say the ground wasn't actually THAT bad and the course took the rain really well.
I note the CoC only called it Heavy for one race (the second) and called it Soft the rest of the day.
The data I have supports that.
It doesn't dry out quickly this time of year, but it may be something between Soft and Good to Soft today and quite holding.
As for the racing, I have no involvement in the first, but will watch with great interest.
I've no bet on the second either, but I expect a decent run from Jordan's Cross, though he is currently too short a price to interest me.
I backed Glengouly in the third based on the assumption at the time it would be almost unraceable by the Sunday and, as stated, I'm less sure now that will be the case.
He should run ok, but my confidence is diminished - he stays a lot further and, by 2m chaser standards, he's a bit of a boat in my book.
In the fourth the Venetia Williams November Groupies have done nothing but give it back since Djelo and, on the face of it, her runner is plenty short enough.
But we are approaching the time she had a Saturday treble last year and, especially on bad ground, I'd still be giving her runners consideration at the very least between now and January - she may suddenly hit form and land an across-the-card multiple when many least expect it.
Fascile Mode is the one I've backed as I thought he was a bit too big.
He has stamina to prove, but he was only seven lengths behind yesterday's Paddy Power third Hoe Joly Smoke in a fair race here at the last meeting and is just about the only horse in the race who has a half-decent recent run to his name in a race over a trip where lack of hard race fitness may find out a few at the business end.
He's out of the handicap, and his jumping was sketchy last time, but he got round and if more fluent this time he might just step up on that.
The ground may be key in the Greatwood because, although from Germany, Alexei is unproven on bad ground.
The run that gives me faint hope is his fourth to the subsequently-smart Straight on "Soft to Heavy" at Baden-Baden as a 2yo, but he's done all his winning and shown all his real form on quicker ground since and it has to be a question.
This leaves me with no real view on the race as there's about six others I could give a chance to.
And the last race is, for me, a contest to watch and learn from.
With Fontwell Park's Southern National (see other thread), Auteuil (ditto) and if Navan and the Troytown (ditto) are on, it really will be "Super Sunday."
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Barnestormer
Amateur Rider
Joe Tizzard who won with Eldorado Allen on Friday sidestepped Cheltenham yesterday but was successful with his only runner Blacksam Senorita at Uttoxeter (still can't believe I got 9/2 about it in a five horse race).
Today he sends two to Cheltenham, Alexei in the Greatwood but the ground is against him.
His other runner:
Triple Trade (2:20)
Runs off 123 last winning mark was 135 and won off 130 at this meeting in 2023.
Ground will suit has won on heavy and 11/2 is available.
By the way congratulations to all the forumites who cleaned out the bookies yesterday.
No I didn't follow you in but had another profitable Saturday.
Today he sends two to Cheltenham, Alexei in the Greatwood but the ground is against him.
His other runner:
Triple Trade (2:20)
Runs off 123 last winning mark was 135 and won off 130 at this meeting in 2023.
Ground will suit has won on heavy and 11/2 is available.
By the way congratulations to all the forumites who cleaned out the bookies yesterday.
No I didn't follow you in but had another profitable Saturday.
Cheltenham 2.20 – Triple Trade
There was plenty of rain on Friday, but this fellow is one who won’t mind it, he goes through soft ground really well, and we know he goes well at Cheltenham too. He actually had a bit of a sinus problem last season, which impacted his campaign, but one positive result of that is that he’s dropped to what looks like a very workable handicap mark of 123. He seems in great form at home, and so I think he’s got a great each-way chance.
Ian_Davies
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Soldier Reeves was 24 on the machine near the Off.
Might And Power
Amateur Rider
3.30 Cheltenham
Castle Carrock - open to further progress this season and will appreciate the soft conditions, looks a solid EW play at 13/2 with SIX PLACES at Sky and Paddy P
Castle Carrock - open to further progress this season and will appreciate the soft conditions, looks a solid EW play at 13/2 with SIX PLACES at Sky and Paddy P
Betfred didn't;though it was showing on oddschecker.Jinnyj the one to follow again
A nice drift for those on at BOG
Ian_Davies
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Returned over 21 on the machine.
Ian_Davies
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Well, if it was an each-way treble you'll have copped a few quid.
Ian_Davies
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Stayed on for second at SP 8/1.
Nice one (spit I was on the 2nd)
Ian_Davies
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Cracking meeting tbf.
Robicheaux
Apprentice
Very enjoyable day. Profit made courtesy of Triple Trade + numerous ew bets on Faivoir.
Relaxing now with ( yet ) another Guinness.
Only had one at the course. Worst pint ever
Relaxing now with ( yet ) another Guinness.
Only had one at the course. Worst pint ever
