Tory Deputy Chair Lets Cat Out Of Bag

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Howard Flight has quit as Conservative deputy chairman over comments he made about the party's spending plans.
The MP, who is the Tories' special envoy to the City, apparently admitted the scale of planned cuts were being concealed to help win an election.

A party spokesman, who confirmed the resignation on Thursday night, said the views did not represent party policy.

Mr Flight, a banker who represents Arundel and South Downs in West Sussex, said he "regrets his choice of words".

'Out in open'

Labour's election chief, Alan Milburn, seized on the resignation: "He has revealed in private what the Tories dare not admit in public - that they are secretly planning cuts to public services over and above the £35 billion they have already confirmed.

"The Tories' secret plan for devastating cuts to frontline public services is now out in the open."

Mr Flight, a Eurosceptic, was involved in setting up the James review into public spending which identified £35bn of savings.

I regret my choice of words which do not accurately reflect the process of the James committee, with which I have been closely involved and totally support.

Howard Flight MP

In a statement on Thursday, he said: "I regret my choice of words which do not accurately reflect the process of the James committee, with which I have been closely involved and totally support.

"I want to make it clear that the conclusions of the James committee represent the settled view of the Conservative Party on cutting waste, removing unnecessary bureaucracies, giving taxpayers value for money and protecting and enhancing frontline public services."

'Politically acceptable'

Mr Flight made the controversial comments at a meeting of the Thatcherite Conservative Way Forward group.

He told the audience: "The potential for getting better taxpayer value is a good bit greater than the James findings (which have been) 'sieved' for what is politically acceptable and what is not going to lose the main argument."

A tape of his comments was leaked to The Times.

He hinted that further tax and spending cuts would be possible once the Conservatives were in power because "everyone on our side of the fence believes passionately that it will be a continuing agenda".

Mr Flight said after an election had been won, "you can actually get on with what needs to be done".

'Nakedly political'

According to the newspaper, Mr Flight described the Tory proposal for pensioners' council tax rebates as "nakedly political".

He suggested further vote-winning promises were likely to include raising income tax and inheritance tax thresholds "so that Middle England comes out of the equation for the time being".

Mr Flight, first elected in 1997, is one of the most Eurosceptic members of the Conservative Parliamentary Party.

He has said he would never vote in favour of a single European currency and used to work for Norman Tebbit, sharing many of his mentor's views on Europe.
 
Oh, good heavens, Brian! Don't you know? Tony Blair Can Do No Wrong, according to his biggest fan on here. Ardross is probably a paid electioneer for the People's Party - he doesn't miss any opportunity to slag off the Conservatives and to carefully swerve any subject likely to prove derogatory to St. Anthony's. The likelihood of having a rational discussion with him about either side is around 50-1 against.
 
I feel the need to refer to a well known legal term - bollocks

As you would well know from reading many of my posts about this bloody Govt nothing could be further than from the truth - swerving topics about them utter drivel . I agree entirely with Brian about the war . I despise their authoritatarianism .

They have one thing going for them - the other lot are worse and it is clear from this much worse
 
At least the "gutless" French and Germans don't have the blood of around 100,000 thousand dead civilians on their hands.
 
Ardross, wrong, again. You never DISCUSS political issues - you just bang on about how dreadful the Tories were, are, and will always be, but you never RAISE any of Labour's misdeeds for open debate. Your anti-Conservatism is almost at fanatical levels, rather like some people's views (either pro- or anti-) on foxhunting, use of the whip, and vegetarianism.

I'm actually beginning to see a pattern on here, though... it's just occurred to me that the two most vegetarian-minded forumites hold the most snarlingly 'anti' positions, when the due topic arises... spooky...
 
Originally posted by krizon@Mar 25 2005, 01:33 PM
it's just occurred to me that the two most vegetarian-minded forumites hold the most snarlingly 'anti' positions, when the due topic arises... spooky...
That's 'cos they don't get enough meat <_<
 
Krizon

That is so not the case . I have raised numerous topics on their appalling authoritarian policies from identity cards to jury trial , from allowing previous convictions to be relied upon routinely to holding terrorist suspects without trial .

I have always opposed the war and regard Butler and Hutton as whitewashes .

What failings have I refused to discuss ?
 
I shall recount them all in a lengthy list, just as soon as I go back through your posts. Meanwhile, amuse yourself, as I may be some time... :D
 
I always had Ardross down as a rabid Tory.







Then again, I had Rooster Booster down as a 178 hurdler. <_<
 
We all get things wrong Mo - I had a picture of you as a John Knox type all fire and brimstone, long grey beard and Presbyterianism .


Then again I thought that Three Valleys would stay a mile
 
I see that Mr Flight is now not even to be a candidate at the next election . The way they are rushing around like pigeons with a cat amongst them tends to suggest that Mr Flight has let out the hidden agenda and is being thrown to the dogs ( he said mixing his metaphors)
 
Originally posted by Ardross@Mar 25 2005, 01:48 PM
We all get things wrong Mo - I had a picture of you as a John Knox type all fire and brimstone, long grey beard and Presbyterianism .

Three out of four aint bad <_<
 
Originally posted by Derek.Burgess@Mar 25 2005, 11:55 AM
At least the "gutless" French and Germans don't have the blood of around 100,000 thousand dead civilians on their hands.
I find myself in agreement with Del.
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Am I the only one to find it slightly - erm, cough - coincidental that now we are nearing an election President Tone has decided that it is about time someone did something about school dinners......funny how he spent long enough ignoring Jamie Oliver & others and only thinks it's a good plan weeks before an election.......
 
No SL you are not the only one but better late than never unlike the Tories who seem keen to go back to compulsory competitive tendering
 
Shadow, really! What ARE you thinking? That our Beloved Leader would try to jump on someone else's bandwagon, and hijack it for himself? If he has, he's learned a trick or two from the Tories after all. <_<
 
It gets better now Mr Flight is refusing to stand down as an MP - telling Howard that if he wants him out of the party that he wil have to follow the proper constitutional process .

Hey no surprise there Mr Flight Howard has about as much respect for proper process and the rule of law as Tony Blair
 
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