Tory Deputy Chair Lets Cat Out Of Bag

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He started backtracking pretty damn quickly though once he realised that the bill would go through before the election & possibly harm his election bid, James..... ;)
 
Mr Flight now apparently has an opinion from a Q.C who is an expert in electoral law saying Howard has acted unlawfully - let the story roll on
 
And not even mentioning the 67 stealth taxes of course introduced by B&B so it seems the labour party also has an hidden a gender too!!! and carrots now dangled as well...

What have they been doing for the last 8 years of being in power its surely enough time to have sorted out the policing, education, immigration, etc AS PER THEIR LAST TWO MANIFESTO'S.........but its in a worse state now!! than before they came into power.......

And me once a staunch Labour party member!! I cant vote Conservative either so it looks like LIB-DEM as a protest vote by me ...................
 
As a small by the by, I'd be interested to see the list of 67 'stealth taxes'.
If it includes National Insurance for one then I'd suggest a blue pencil. A true tax is on all income whereas NI is only on earned income or voluntary.
 
What a load of crap - many of those aren't taxes at all . A good deal of them seem eminently sensible
 
Ardross you ought to change your name to THOMAS I produce figures and you doubt them.........

if you would like to take out the finer points, you are possibly left with the all the stealth taxes that I stated in the first place and these prior to this years budget too..............

p.s I did not write the article only copied and pasted it.......just as long as you know that........and no doubt there are reams of pages on line containing the same or similar info...

no doubt equal to the crap that you post most of the time............. :P
 
It's a strange site and certainly not one which I'd use as a source of factual material. It appears to be connected to BlackFlag, the anarchist magazine. The list is simplistic and omits any counter-balancing concessions. But I suppose that if I were in the propagandising business I'd do the same.
 
Merlin

What a shame you are still not sulking .

It is obvious you did not write that site and your sensitivity has reached new heights when criticism of a site you use to justify your position leads to abuse on your part .

If you are old Labour as you suggest your objection to stealth taxes I assume is that they are imposed by stealth not that they are taxes .
 
Seekers after truth will be interested in this piece from the Media Guardian:

C4 site subjects politicians to truth test

Jason Deans, broadcasting editor
Wednesday March 30, 2005

Channel 4 today launches a website that will enable voters to check the factual basis of politicians' claims in the run-up to the general election.

The Factcheck website, which has been inspired by a similar online venture launched in the US in 2003, has been set up to inform voters about the factual accuracy of claims politicians make in speeches, press conferences and press releases.

Channel 4 has commissioned ITN, which makes Channel 4 News, to run the website until polling day, which is expected to be May 5.

"We believe Factcheck will be an important service to the public during the election period. With so many statements flying around, it is often difficult for the voter to know where the truth lies," said Dorothy Byrne, the head of news and current affairs at Channel 4.

ITN has hired Jon Bernstein, the former editor-in-chief of the Directgov website, to lead the Factcheck team of researchers and political journalists.

Mr Bernstein said: "Our aim is that Channel 4's Factcheck will make an important contribution to the public debate by providing the most reliable information and analysis for the upcoming political contest."

Factcheck has been inspired by FactCheck.org, the US site that won praise during last year's presidential election for holding both the Republican and Democrat candidates to account.

Visits to FactCheck.org shot up after Dick Cheney referred to the website during a vice-presidential debate.

FactCheck.org is run by a small Washington-based team, led by Brooks Jackson, a former Associated Press, Wall Street Journal and CNN journalist.

A non-partisan and non-profit organisation, it is backed by the Annenberg Public Policy Centre of the University of Pennsylvania.
 
No the dinner was OK - she rustled up some organic chicken breast in a filo pastry with some kind of sauce I wasn't sure of. Baked potato and a side salad. I don't often drink on schoolnights, so it was a glass of blended water, 35% Evian 17% Perrier and 48% Ballygowan. I have a little man in Baggot St that mixes it just perfectly.
 
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