Tsunami

Tout Seul

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The power and violence of the sea demonstrated once again.

I can easily imagine relaxing on a lounger, reading some novel bought by weight, sipping some exotic cocktail, nary a care in the world other than whether one's lobster coloured limbs will eventually turn brown. Then, woosh, how vulnerable!
Shudder.

BTW. Am I the only one pissed off by the concentration by the media on the few hundred dead or missing tourists when the latest estimates are around 29,000 dead in total.
 
I think it may be in access of 50K that are dead, but one will never know the full extent of this devastation owing to non comunication and the remoteness of some of the places affected..............
 
One small story, a brit on holiday in Sri Lanka went to see a palm reader on Christmas Eve who told her to "stay out of sea, big wave coming".
She ignored her but still survived.
 
No Tout Seul it makes me sick - at least 13,000 dead in Sri Lanka and one news outlet was going on about a British couple's wedding being spoiled :angy:
 
Originally posted by Merlin the Magician@Dec 28 2004, 10:26 AM
I think it may be in access of 50K that are dead, but one will never know the full extent of this devastation owing to non comunication and the remoteness of some of the places affected..............
sorry to say its going to exceed this figure too...............
 
Horrendous - I suggest visiting either the Oxfam or Save the Children websites to donate towards the relief effort
 
"Am I the only one pissed off by the concentration by the media on the few hundred dead or missing tourists when the latest estimates are around 29,000 dead in total"
It's difficult to lay the blame for this at the door of the media, as they tend to slant reports in such a way as they know from experience will satisfy their readers/viewers/listeners most. I don't know whether anyone remembers a little book called "Has Anyone Here Been Raped And Speaks English?".

Members of this forum may be surprised to hear that the attitude towards "foreigners" is not always of a benevolent nature...
 
It's not good, this tragedy....just goes to show that no matter how advanced our technology is, we cannot control nature at its worst.
 
Going up all the time and a greater threat is disease now from the decomposing bodies......

GALLE, Sri Lanka (Reuters) - The sea and wreckage of coastal towns around the Indian Ocean is yielding up tens of thousands of bodies, pushing the toll from Sunday's tsunami close to 60,000.

The apocalyptic destruction caused by the ocean surge dwarfed the efforts of governments and relief agencies as they recovered countless corpses while trying to treat survivors and take care of millions of homeless, increasingly threatened by disease amid the rotting remains. Thousands more were injured.


The United Nations launched what it called an unprecedented relief effort to assist nations hit by a devastating tsunami triggered by a magnitude 9.0 undersea earthquake off the Indonesian island of Sumatra.

In a further threat to the region, disease could kill as many people as those killed by the wall of water, a top World Health Organisation (WHO) official said.


While grieving families in wrecked coastal towns and resorts buried their loved ones, others, including many foreign tourists, searched for friends and relatives still missing.

"Why did you do this to us, God?" wailed an old woman in a devastated fishing village in southern India's Tamil Nadu state. "What did we do to upset you? This is worse than death."


In Thailand, where thousands of tourists were enjoying a Christmas break to escape the northern winter, many of the country's paradise resorts were turned into graveyards.

In a French-run hotel at Khao Lak on the Thai mainland north of the island of Phuket, up to half the 415 guests were believed killed. A reporter from France's Europe 1 radio said many bodies had been found in their rooms.

"The army is still bringing out bodies from the rooms, because most of the tourists and staff of the hotel ... were trapped by the wave which completely swamped this hotel," reporter Anthony Dufour said.

ACEH DEVASTATED

"The enormity of the disaster is unbelievable," said Bekele Geleta, head of the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC) in Southeast Asia.

In Sri Lanka, hundreds of people were killed when a wave crashed into a train, wrecking eight carriages and uprooting the track it was travelling on. The train was called "Sea Queen".

Of the overall death toll so far of 59,186, Indonesia has suffered the biggest number of victims, with its Health Ministry reporting 27,174 dead.

Nearly all the deaths in Indonesia were in the north-western province of Aceh at the tip of Sumatra. Rescue crews were still trying to reach cut off areas. Separatist rebels announced a truce while people search for loved ones.

The stench of decomposing corpses spread over the provincial capital Banda Aceh, where fresh water, food and fuel were in short supply. Bodies lay scattered in the streets.

One of the worst hit cities was Meulaboh, about 150 km (90 miles) from the quake's epicentre. The mayor Tengku Zulkarnaen said three-quarters of his city had been washed away.

About 1,000 people lay on a sports field where they were killed when the three-storey-high wall of water struck.

"My son is crying for his mother," said Bejkhajorn Saithong, 39, searching for his wife at a wrecked hotel on the beach. Body parts jutted from the wreckage.

"I think this is her," he said. "I recognise her hand, but I'm not sure."

Sri Lanka reported around 19,000 dead. India's toll of 11,500 included at least 7,000 on one archipelago, the Andamans and Nicobar. On one island, the surge of water killed two-thirds of the population.

Hundreds of others died in the Maldives, Myanmar and Malaysia. The arc of water struck as far as Somalia and Kenya. Fishing villages, ports and resorts were devastated, power and communications cut and homes destroyed. The United Nations said the cost of the damage will reach billions of dollars.

The tremor, the biggest in 40 years, ripped a chasm in the sea bed which launched the tsunami, possibly the deadliest in more than 200 years.

A tsunami at Krakatoa in 1883 killed 36,000 and one in the south China Sea in 1782 40,000, according to the National Geophysical Data Centre in the United States.

DECOMPOSING

At the Thai holiday resort of Phuket, foreign tourists pored over names on hospital lists and peered at 80 hospital photos of swollen, unidentified bodies.

"My father was not there," said German yacht skipper Jerzy Chojnowski, who was looking for his 83-year-old father, missing since the tsunami struck. "My father was not a good swimmer."

Many of the bodies were already decomposing in the heat, underlining the growing health risk.

Relief teams and rescuers flew into the region from around the globe to help in what the United Nations said will be the biggest and costliest relief effort in its history.

Gerhard Berz, a top risk researcher at Munich Re, the world's largest reinsurer, estimated the economic cost of the devastation at more than $13 billion.

More than 20 countries have pledged emergency aid worth more than $60 million. Several Asian nations have sent naval ships carrying supplies and doctors to devastated areas.

In Geneva, the WHO's Dr David Nabarro said it was vital to rush medicine and fresh water to the worst-hit countries to prevent further catastrophe.

"There is certainly a chance that we could have as many dying from communicable diseases as from the tsunami," Nabarro told a news conference.

There was a serious risk of an explosion of malaria and dengue fever, already endemic in southeast Asia, he said.

Around the ring of devastation, Sweden reported 1,500 citizens missing, the Czech Republic almost 400, Finland 200 and Italy and Germany 100.

Jan Egeland, head of the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, said:

"We cannot fathom the cost of these poor societies and the nameless fishermen and fishing villages ... that have just been wiped out. Hundreds of thousands of livelihoods have gone."

Around Sri Lanka's southern coasts about 1.5 million people -- or one in 12 of the population -- were homeless, many sheltering in Buddhist temples and schools.
 
Absolutely horrendous, of course, and the human and economic and psychological consequences will be with us for years to come.

Two thoughts: first, very little reporting from Myanmar (or Burma). I find it hard to believe given the devastation in Phuket that the long stretch of Burmese coast wasn't affected and perhaps the military junta in Rangoon is reluctant to let news crews in. I fear an enormous death toll on that coast too.

Second, the US is giving £18 million and the EU £21 million but the British contribution to that latter figure is just £370k. In East Ham this afternoon, a number of shops and charities were already taking donations for Sri Lanka and India - the area has a very large Hindu community. I confidently expect the British people, as a whole, will contribute generously to the DEC appeal. I'm disappointed the British Government doesn't feel a more substantial donation is in order given our long-standing ties to the region.
 
Is it me, or does this appear a little unbalanced.

I know the sums pledged would look attractive in my bank account, but for some of the countries, the amounts are paltry. This is a huge disaster that is far from completing it's cycle and the help required is both short term and long term.

I'm not a great lover of throwing money at big charities, but do these numbers account for purely dollars pledged, or for the loan of helicopters and machinery etc?

KEY AID PLEDGES
EU $44m
US: $35m
Canada: $33m
Japan: $30m
UK: $28.9m
Australia: $27m
France: $20.4m
Denmark: $15.6m
Saudi Arabia: $10m
Norway: $6.6m
Taiwan: $5.1m
Finland: $3.4m
Kuwait: $2.1m
Netherlands: $2.6m
UAE: $2m
Ireland $1.3m
Singapore: $1.2m
 
"the EU £21 million but the British contribution to that latter figure is just £370k"
While the £15m being donated by GB may be inadequate and a small percentage of what has been spent on the invasion and subsequent action in Iraq, it is significantly more than the amount contained in that report, which was the GB portion of the EU's contribution.
 
I'm sure that most people who want to donate some money will find a way, but if anyone wants to call combined charities line, it's 0870 6060 900. The call is fully automated by voice - you don't have to keep pressing the numbers.
 
How about the lottery Money being diverted for a few months,EFF the good causes,there is a better and more pressing at the moment.


Putting the responsibility on Joe Public ain't the right way.Yes i did make a donation through Oxfam, on line.






Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain
- and most fools do. -- Dale Carnegie
 
Well, I think most individuals want to show some sort of solidarity and support with fellow human beings, rather than it only coming through some form of organization, Derek. But - how about a couple of billion coming out of the US and Europe's trillion-dollar Defence budgets? Might save several thousand more lives that way, too.
 
I wasn't really considering the UK contribution Brian, more Saudi Arabia (10mill) and the UAE (2mill).

I know they have no obligation, but the countries are generally awash with money and these sums are just pocket money.

35mill from the US is not much of an effort, especially when you consider the quanties of money they can readily find to kill people. If nothing else, it wouldn't be a bad public relations exercise if they were to direct a large quantity of helicopters, medical supplies and other essentials with some urgency to help out, even if they stood back and let the aid organizations supervise it.
 
I found it hard to believe when I heard on the radio this evening that the death toll was up to 123,000.....that's just terrible.
 
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