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It's always good to not go to extremes, in sport most teams will fail.

But Clive, tell me this - do you think any player in the English team would have looked like Suarez did when he scored or on the bench afterwards? Do you think it means as much to them?

For example, Hart tells us often how much it means to him but when he had his moment he was afraid of getting hit in the face. Suarez looked like he would have put his face into a cement mixer to get a result.

Look at the effort and desire from Chile and Costa Rica. Pure desire.

Danny Welbeck may run but I've never seen him run like those teams.

[QUOTE="Hamm, post: 2487314, member: 65416"] It's always good to not go to extremes, in sport most teams will fail. But Clive, tell me this - do you think any player in the English team would have looked like Suarez did when he scored or on the bench afterwards? Do you think it means as much to them? For example, Hart tells us often how much it means to him but when he had his moment he was afraid of getting hit in the face. Suarez looked like he would have put his face into a cement mixer to get a result. Look at the effort and desire from Chile and Costa Rica. Pure desire. Danny Welbeck may run but I've never seen him run like those teams. [/QUOTE]

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