Zanahiyr

Maruco said:
It was a good shout but you didn't take ****. You just had Grassy panicking! :lol:

The point with that bet you raise is the same as this one. Nrnb is cover for the 'just in case'. It doesn't need to happen for it to be a good thing to do, but I'm guessing you don't have a position to cover? So using the throwaway line of 100% is easy and doesn't matter. Plenty of people would have said that Vautour goes to the Ryanair 0%. Covering was still the smart thing to do.

Did you back the Honeysuckle DRF and Concertista Mares Hurdle double? If one thing happens the other becomes more likely and it was good cover for Honeysuckle Mares Hurdle bets. Plenty on here and elsewhere were saying Honeysuckle '100%' goes to the Mares Hurdle. 'She's not quick enough over two miles'. 'She can't win at the DRF against a better field'. 'She doens't jump quick enough or have the basic speed to win a Champion Hurdle'. The double as cover was just a sensible thing to do whether the chance was 5% or 95%. There is no 100% unless they categorically come out and say it. You don't know what Cheveley think, or the Moran's for that matter, let alone Gordon.

Essentially what you've done in your post is give a good reason to cover any eventialities with Zanahiyr if you've already got a position on him.

As I've said, I also think it's highly unlikely, but I like making money, not giving it away, and I don't work on 100%'s that aren't really 100%'s.
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I'm all for related doubles but this is just a complete reach and no relation to Honeysuckle-Concertista doubles:

The Morans are sinking untold money into the yard. There is absolutely no way they are running it in a harder race to benefit another owner. They have Chevely Park sewn up and got a Grade 1 out of Quixilios already. It's less than 0% that he's runs in the Supreme.
 
:lol:

I originally read that as ‘hatred levels now’.

Yep, forum is on-song right now.
 
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Good points from both Littlelad and Beef or Salmon.

How do you access 2022 prices? I had one in mind for next year too.
 
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Slim said:
Imagine my shock. Just need to see a Benie Des Glue mass card for the sweep...
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:lol:

My kind of humour, Slim.

I've taken 33/1 Zanahiyr for the 2022 Champion Hurdle. He'll be 10/1 after he wins the Triumph, less if he wins by a mile, and I can decide then whether to go for a profit or let it ride. I don't like 5yos in the Champion Hurdle but I did back Our Conor for it.
 
Desert Orchid said:
:lol:

My kind of humour, Slim.

I've taken 33/1 Zanahiyr for the 2022 Champion Hurdle. He'll be 10/1 after he wins the Triumph, less if he wins by a mile, and I can decide then whether to go for a profit or let it ride. I don't like 5yos in the Champion Hurdle but I did back Our Conor for it.
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Sportsbook are 40/1 he wins both DO.
 
Gordon Elliott has poured cold water on the idea of Zanahiyr switching to the Supreme Novices' and is adamant the Triumph Hurdle favourite will stick to his own age group at next month's Cheltenham Festival.

Since Quilixios sauntered to success in the Spring Juvenile Hurdle at Leopardstown this month, there have been rumblings that Elliott might split him and Zanahiyr up rather than both taking each other on in the JCB Triumph Hurdle.

He might still split them up but, if he does, it would mean Quilixios going for the Boodles' Juvenile Handicap Hurdle as Zanahiyr will not run in the Supreme. That will come as a relief to those who have backed him into 5-2 favourite for the Triumph.

Ellliott said: "Zanahiyr will run in the Triumph. He's favourite for it, and that's where he will go. He's had his three runs and has picked up plenty of experience. We didn't run him at the Dublin Racing Festival and kept him back to go straight to the Triumph instead. He's in great form."

On the unbeaten Quilixios, Elliott said: "I'm not sure what sort of mark Quilixios would get in the Boodles, but he'll certainly have an entry to find out. We'll see what mark he gets and then decide whether to go there or to the Triumph. He was very good at Leopardstown."

Elliott also revealed he is in a race against time to get the unbeaten Duffle Coat to the festival.

Duffle Coat was five lengths too good for subsequent Grade 1 winner Adagio in the Triumph Hurdle Trial at Cheltenham in November and is four from four over hurdles. He is 10-1 with Paddy Power for the Triumph Hurdle, but might not make it.

Elliott said: "Duffle Coat has had a setback and it's going to be very tight with regard to Cheltenham. It will be touch and go whether we make it or not."

The other Triumph Hurdle contender from the Elliott stable is Teahupoo.

The French import was a wide-margin winner on his Irish debut last month, albeit a bit fortunate as Youmdor came down at the last when in front, and he will head back to Fairyhouse on Saturday week for the Grade 3 Winning Fair Juvenile Hurdle.

The trainer said: "Teapuhoo was good at Fairyhouse the last day and he will head back there next weekend for the Grade 3. He's a nice horse.
 
Definitely. There's nowhere else he's likely to send him now.

The comments about Quilixios possibly going to the Boodles are to deflect from his other plots heading there.
 
I actually think 7/1 NRNB Quilixios for the Boodles is a great bet.

Nothing lost if he doesn't turn up but if he gets a mark in the region of 140-142, which seems likely, and runs then he won't be anything like 7/1 on the day. He'll be very short
 
Maruco said:
Definitely. There's nowhere else he's likely to send him now.

The comments about Quilixios possibly going to the Boodles are to deflect from his other plots heading there.
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I think his comments are an attempt to get the handicapper to let him in the Boodle light...He's already 144 rated (Irish)...
Chevely Park already has Ballyadam in the Supreme...But if they decided to Up to the Balleymore...Elliot's left with nothing in the Supreme... The grade 2 winning Zanahiyr (145) has an entry in the Supreme, the grade 1 winning Quilixios only has Triumph.

I can see a rethink nearer the day, Zanahiyr in the Supreme, the running on Ballyadam in the Balleymore and Quilixios in the Triumph...after all, his form is arguably better on paper and visually.

That way he wins with both 3 year olds...
 
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Maxbet said:
I think his comments are an attempt to get the handicapper to let him in the Boodle light...He's already 144 rated (Irish)...
Chevely Park already has Ballyadam in the Supreme...But if they decided to Up to the Balleymore...Elliot's left with nothing in the Supreme... The grade 2 winning Zanahiyr (145) has an entry in the Supreme, the grade 1 winning Quilixios only has Triumph.

I can see a rethink nearer the day, Zanahiyr in the Supreme, the running on Ballyadam in the Balleymore and Quilixios in the Triumph...after all, his form is arguably better on paper and visually.

That way he wins with both 3 year olds...
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Zanahiyr has been scratched from the Supreme today.
 
wilsonl said:
I actually think 7/1 NRNB Quilixios for the Boodles is a great bet.

Nothing lost if he doesn't turn up but if he gets a mark in the region of 140-142, which seems likely, and runs then he won't be anything like 7/1 on the day. He'll be very short
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142? 152 more like.
 
I'm sat here assuming both Zanahiyr and Quilixios will go to the Triumph.

By saying people will work it out are you suggesting one of them will go for a handicap?
 
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