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Racing memories (good or not so good)

Desert Orchid

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Being an old duffer now myself, and seeing I seem not to be in a minority on the forum, I wondered if maybe it would be an idea to have a dedicated thread for reminiscing and rambling, as is becoming my wont.

Feel free to add your own memoirettes, if I may coin a new word, good, bad, exciting or downright boring.
 
About 20 years ago, when bookies began to open in the evening, I went into a betting shop to back a specific hurdler, can't remember the name or where it was running.

Anyway, I took 7/4 and had a tenner on it, which was more than my usual stake at that time, it is now as well, since I have retired!

It went off as 11/8 fav and I was feeling pleased with myself for getting a better price. It was in command throughout the race and the result never seemed in doubt cruising to the 2nd last with all the other jockeys rowing away like mad and bouncing their bums on the plate. Bloody thing clipped the top of the hurdle and went arse over tit.

I was feeling very sorry for myself because I had just lost best part of an evenings beer money when one of the regulars in that shop said, "Jesus, I had my last 30p on that." That put things into perspective, so I took him into the pub a few doors away and bought him a couple of pints.
 
Cheers, walsworth, you've cheered me up. I'm not sure I'd have that spirit of generosity.

I don't know why - maybe the mention of how much it cost for a few beers got my cogs clicking - but it reminds me of the time I was in a Coral's shop in near the uni when I was a student. It was lunchtime and in walks snooker legend John Spencer, writes out a slip for £30 win "I'll take the price" (100/30) about one. I'm pretty sure its name was Saffron [something - Cake?] and it was in a 3m hcap hurdle at Cheltenham, so must have been one of the Fridays at either the Mackeson or Massey-Ferguson meeting. Stupidly, I didn't take the hint and didn't follow him in. It duly won (at something like 9/4).

Spencer was in the area for an exhibition match.

To put the money into perspective, in those days a pint of 'heavy' (eg McEwen's Export) cost 12p and a pint of Guinness cost 15p, so £30 was 200 x the price of a pint. Whatever you pay for a pint these days, work it out.
 
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You must be talking early 70's there because I remember when we went decimal in February 1971 a pint of McMullens AK session beer went from one shilling and eleven old pennys to eleven new pence.
 
The King George and Queen Elizabeth Stakes. I was there and on Bustino - I’m going to win, no I’m not, I am going to win, no I’m not, I might just win, no I won’t - and I didn’t. Grundy and Bustino, what a race.
 
Somewhere in the mid/late seventies meself and some friends used to follow a sprinter called Ubedizzy off a cliff. A complete thug of an animal he was entered (I think) at Newmarket on a day our class were all bussing off to West Kerry, Dun Chaion, to immerse ourselves in Peig Sayers for the upcoming Leaving Cert. (The Irish guys will get goose bumps of horror reading that last sentence.)

Anyway, four of us clubbed together and had an extravagant fiver win and he delivered at 16/1. In the Dessie financial index this was about 40 pints at the time. We used the money to get rat arsed before a Saturday night Ceili and one of the lads dropped an unwelcome and inappropriate hand on a local cailin during the Seige of Ennis. The local minor team, brick sh!thouses all of them, had been looking for an excuse to get medieval on the visiting Jackeens all night and this raised the white flag.

When the pounding eventually stopped that fecker Ubedizzy had cost us several teeth, a few cracked ribs and a plethora of black eyes. The Bwastard.
 
You must be talking early 70's there because I remember when we went decimal in February 1971 a pint of McMullens AK session beer went from one shilling and eleven old pennys to eleven new pence.

I started uni in 1973 so yes.

The prices I'm quoting were union prices so slightly cheaper than pub ones. A pint of light was 10½p, pale ale 11p. Pint bottles of Whitbread or Newcastle Brown were something like 14p/15p and if you really felt flush, a pint of Stella was about 16p.
 
I can remember when I was a lorry drivers mate,going to Durham wmc paying 5d to get in,8 pints and twenty fags and change out of a pound.

I also remember beer at 3/- and by thursday going on the scrumpy cos it was only 1/6d.

I also remember discovering Newcastle brown.got my local to stock it.
 
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It feels like my whole life can be measured by races won, lost, or just plain enjoyed, and the names of horses buried in the memory that occasionally pop up with great fondness. And some that never made it home, too, of course.


My Dad gave me my first winner, around 1975. Strawhill 8-1. Think I had two quid on it, and that was it. Hooked forever.

Sometime in the mid-80s, I remember he said to me 'watch out for this horse, son. His name's Carriage Way, and you need to back him whenever he runs in an apprentice race'.

A bit further on, and Dad's in hospital. The Doctor has said he was too weak to operate on and wouldn't make it.

Somewhere in between the many 10-minute trips between home and the hospital, Carriage Way ran and went in at 16-1 (i think, memory is hazy)..in an apprentices race. Might have been somewhere like Redcar or Nottingham.

I remember I sat on the bed and held his hand. He could not speak because of the ventilator.

I

I

I said to him,

'he ran, Dad. He won like you said. I had a fiver on him for you'.

I felt the grip tighten. I think that was hard for him to do. And I saw the smile in his eyes.

It was the last time we spoke. It was the last time I saw him smile.


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Some 12-15 years on. It was a mid-week day, and my girlfriend and I were due to fly to Sardinia the next day on a 4-day break.

We had a heated verbal dispute that evening, I cannot remember what about. And I slept in the spare room.

Must have been around 5am, I guess a noise woke me. I jumped up, looked out the window, and saw what looked like a taxi driving away.

Beth had gone without me.

***************************

So now, I'm at home alone.

At the time, I'd only just started using an online bookie. Sportingbet, for some reason (I know now, but didn't then) they were always offering better odds than anyone else, especially on outsiders.

I'd been following Berry sprinters for some time. And also was playing a bit with my own speed ratings.

So, Berry had two running, an 8-1 shot and a 33-1 shot named Circuit Dancer. With one other - I think it was a James Given trained sprinter at 40-1 that I'd got down with a good speed rating - I had an EW treble.

Didn't listen or watch anything. Aside from the bet, it was a weird day, emotionally challenging, shall we say.

Come 5 o'clock or so, I logged in to look at results. And there they were.

*******************************

That day changed my life financially And it shouldn't have happened. If I'd left for Sardinia that morning, there's no way I would have placed the bet.

Later, I found out that the last runner - Circuit Dancer - was two lengths plus down to the favourite and beat going into the final furlong, when the leader swerved across the course for no known reason. CD got up to win (by a head, I think).

How fate plays its games.

I'd like to think it was Dad looking down and whispering to the would-be winner 'throw it, go on, throw it'.


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About 6 years later, I think he was watching again...but that's another story.

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My girlfriend at the time? Well, we married about 5 years later.
 
Touching stuff, chaumi, and I totally get what you're saying, but...

... on this forum you're just as likely to be savaged for aftertiming...
 
... on this forum you're just as likely to be savaged for aftertiming...

Haha, yeah, was conscious of that. In defence, it was a 'long time ago aftertiming'. I'll argue it doesn't really count. But equally, might expect to lose that argument.

I will apologize for blurting some of this lot out though. It felt cathartic for me, been holding it in for a long time. Never spoken about most of it. Maybe it should have stayed unspoken...but I don't think Dad will mind.

I won't do the follow-up story, though :-)
 
Nijinsky was the first horse I ever thought special, so had to witness him in the flesh.
Leger day came, and I drove to Donny (alone) early to ensure a good view. Didn't back him, didn't need to, just sat in my eyrie transfixed by the whole experience, and he duly delivered like the great horse he was.
Unfortunately, I reckon that effort bottomed him, and he was never able to show his brilliance afterwards, losing a lot of his lustre in the eyes of many.
Not me though, he was a very special horse that achieved the 1970 Triple Crown, a proof of his magnificence that has yet to be repeated.
Best ever day at the races for me, and the memory will live as long as I do.
 
When I first got into internet forums, 2001, my main home was..Direct Racing. There were some seriously good judges on there, two that spring to mind were SEEN and DEAN THE BUMPER KING. Does anyone remember that forum?
 
It feels like my whole life can be measured by races won, lost, or just plain enjoyed, and the names of horses buried in the memory that occasionally pop up with great fondness. And some that never made it home, too, of course.


My Dad gave me my first winner, around 1975. Strawhill 8-1. Think I had two quid on it, and that was it. Hooked forever.

Sometime in the mid-80s, I remember he said to me 'watch out for this horse, son. His name's Carriage Way, and you need to back him whenever he runs in an apprentice race'.

A bit further on, and Dad's in hospital. The Doctor has said he was too weak to operate on and wouldn't make it.

Somewhere in between the many 10-minute trips between home and the hospital, Carriage Way ran and went in at 16-1 (i think, memory is hazy)..in an apprentices race. Might have been somewhere like Redcar or Nottingham.

I remember I sat on the bed and held his hand. He could not speak because of the ventilator.

I

I

I said to him,

'he ran, Dad. He won like you said. I had a fiver on him for you'.

I felt the grip tighten. I think that was hard for him to do. And I saw the smile in his eyes.

It was the last time we spoke. It was the last time I saw him smile.


*****************************

Some 12-15 years on. It was a mid-week day, and my girlfriend and I were due to fly to Sardinia the next day on a 4-day break.

We had a heated verbal dispute that evening, I cannot remember what about. And I slept in the spare room.

Must have been around 5am, I guess a noise woke me. I jumped up, looked out the window, and saw what looked like a taxi driving away.

Beth had gone without me.

***************************

So now, I'm at home alone.

At the time, I'd only just started using an online bookie. Sportingbet, for some reason (I know now, but didn't then) they were always offering better odds than anyone else, especially on outsiders.

I'd been following Berry sprinters for some time. And also was playing a bit with my own speed ratings.

So, Berry had two running, an 8-1 shot and a 33-1 shot named Circuit Dancer. With one other - I think it was a James Given trained sprinter at 40-1 that I'd got down with a good speed rating - I had an EW treble.

Didn't listen or watch anything. Aside from the bet, it was a weird day, emotionally challenging, shall we say.

Come 5 o'clock or so, I logged in to look at results. And there they were.

*******************************

That day changed my life financially And it shouldn't have happened. If I'd left for Sardinia that morning, there's no way I would have placed the bet.

Later, I found out that the last runner - Circuit Dancer - was two lengths plus down to the favourite and beat going into the final furlong, when the leader swerved across the course for no known reason. CD got up to win (by a head, I think).

How fate plays its games.

I'd like to think it was Dad looking down and whispering to the would-be winner 'throw it, go on, throw it'.


**********************************

About 6 years later, I think he was watching again...but that's another story.

***************************

My girlfriend at the time? Well, we married about 5 years later.

Absolutely lovely story...thanks for sharing
 
When I first got into internet forums, 2001, my main home was..Direct Racing. There were some seriously good judges on there, two that spring to mind were SEEN and DEAN THE BUMPER KING. Does anyone remember that forum?

I like the sound of the Bumper King. Can you remember what the actual domain name/URL was, EC? directracingforum.co.uk?
 
I can't Chaumi tbh. It would have been what you suggested I think. It was a well known forum at that time. Dean was genius, he only tipped bumper horses, whether he did get info I don't know, but he put up a lot of winners. Seen was a guy I had a fair bit of contact with, he also posted as Stav on an other forum. I believe his brother ran another forum, a well known one but my memory fails as to which one. It was so long ago now, but Direct Racing was such a great form. Someone will remember it I am sure. I just know Stav/Seen is out there somewhere. I posted as EC on there from day one, some people thought it was because I was London based, but was simply based on being a fan of Eric Clapton.
 
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Ah, now we know where EC21 comes from. Mine would have been SQ in the distant past, Status Quo. Hammersmith Odeon, around 1975. I swear the balcony was moving discernibly up and down in time with the head banging. But for the adrenaline and excitement, it probably would have been scary. But we were just kids, no concept.

Anyway, back to horses. And this just popped into mind....the number you used to call from the old ivory/green/black dial phone in your hall to listen to racing results. 168, I think it was. Glory days!

Stockton...3.15....
 
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Ah, now we know where EC21 comes from. Mine would have been SQ in the distant past, Status Quo. Hammersmith Odeon, around 1975. I swear the balcony was moving discernibly up and down in time with the head banging. But for the adrenaline and excitement, it probably would have been scary. But we were just kids, no concept.

Anyway, back to horses. And this just popped into mind....the number you used to call from the old ivory/green/black dial phone in your hall to listen to racing results. 168, I think it was. Glory days!

Stockton...3.15....

My memory isn't that good:) I do remember Stockton races. One of my of my favourite horses, who ran there, was Traiditional Miss. Your earlier post was awesome chap, really good.
 
Ten years old and I have spent my first winter watching racing on tv and listening to Airs And Races Saturday afternoons for Irish meetings.
No Hill was a "Saturday horse "; won three on the trot at the top Irish tracks.
Come Punchestown he is running in the Jameson Novice Handicap Chase on Wednesday.
Ruby Walsh sr trained and Ted Walsh was in his pomp as Amateur Champion.
After school (4th class primary) I know the horse will win but have no money to back up my opinion .
I ask my older brother for 5p; he has 10 but refused to break it ; all or nothing he decides.
I take the money and place my bet.
With no tv coverage and limited radio news we walk the streets with a 10p win docket while he reminds me that we could have a bar of chocolate each .
The betting docket is not appetising until No Hill wins at 3-1.
I learned two lessons that day;
1. Always back up our opinion.
2. Never bet with money you do not have; not even 10p !

I owe Ted Walsh a bar of chocolate ; a grateful punter 46 years late is better than never.
 
Ten years old and I have spent my first winter watching racing on tv and listening to Airs And Races Saturday afternoons for Irish meetings.
No Hill was a "Saturday horse "; won three on the trot at the top Irish tracks.
Come Punchestown he is running in the Jameson Novice Handicap Chase on Wednesday.
Ruby Walsh sr trained and Ted Walsh was in his pomp as Amateur Champion.
After school (4th class primary) I know the horse will win but have no money to back up my opinion .
I ask my older brother for 5p; he has 10 but refused to break it ; all or nothing he decides.
I take the money and place my bet.
With no tv coverage and limited radio news we walk the streets with a 10p win docket while he reminds me that we could have a bar of chocolate each .
The betting docket is not appetising until No Hill wins at 3-1.
I learned two lessons that day;
1. Always back up our opinion.
2. Never bet with money you do not have; not even 10p !

I owe Ted Walsh a bar of chocolate ; a grateful punter 46 years late is better than never.

The book must be soon
 
It would be so much better if we didn't need to make jokes about it.

A couple of years back I mentioned having backed a winner back in the 80s or something ridiculous like that and was jumped on by the usual suspects.

Petty doesn't begin to describe some people but it remains their problem, not mine.
 
Ten years old and I have spent my first winter watching racing on tv and listening to Airs And Races Saturday afternoons for Irish meetings.
No Hill was a "Saturday horse "; won three on the trot at the top Irish tracks.
Come Punchestown he is running in the Jameson Novice Handicap Chase on Wednesday.
Ruby Walsh sr trained and Ted Walsh was in his pomp as Amateur Champion.
After school (4th class primary) I know the horse will win but have no money to back up my opinion .
I ask my older brother for 5p; he has 10 but refused to break it ; all or nothing he decides.
I take the money and place my bet.
With no tv coverage and limited radio news we walk the streets with a 10p win docket while he reminds me that we could have a bar of chocolate each .
The betting docket is not appetising until No Hill wins at 3-1.
I learned two lessons that day;
1. Always back up our opinion.
2. Never bet with money you do not have; not even 10p !

I owe Ted Walsh a bar of chocolate ; a grateful punter 46 years late is better than never.


I love stories like this!

I sometimes think back and wonder if the local bookie near my school would ever have paid me out if I'd backed a winner. Clueless back then - stands back and awaits the obvious comments - I was going into the bookie and sticking 5p on "the Tote Daily Double", not really knowing what I was backing. It was just two races designated on a daily basis but I had no real idea what it was. I just knew I was backing a double and thought I had to label it "the Tote Daily Double".

I never got the double up so never had to collect but I did wonder - still do when I think about it - if they'd ever have paid me. After all, there was all 5'2" of me stretching up to put the 'line' on with my school tie hanging out of my pocket and bumfluff on my chin. There was no way I looked 16, let alone 18.
 

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