2000 Guineas - Newmarket 6 June 2020

Frankel
SJP sectionals,Pinatubo. - from ATR website:

15.46
13.08Rear
12.79Rear
12.66Rear
12.68Rear
12.30Front
11.64Front
11.95 2nd
Form commentary:
held up in rear, angled out and good headway between horses over 2f out, went 2nd over 1f out, soon ridden to challenge, led 100 yards out, headed and no extra towards finish
Race finish % 109.37
All of which clearly indicate a steady early pace.
His energy distribution chart also shows he conserved his until the last 2f.

Like Jamie Lynch, you're messing with stuff you don't begin to understand.
 
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Woah!

Please feel free to enlighten us what we don't begin to understand! Await with bated breath.
 
Frankel said:
I go back to the sectionals in the SJP. Clock watchers think Pinatubo was simply beaten by speed rather than stamina.
The fact Pinatubo fell back in to the lap of Wichita yet was still quicker in that last furlong is telling.

Between the 2 and just before the half furlong Pinatubo looked like he might get it done (Would like to know that split).
At that point PP got on top of him as he then fell back in to Witchita.
Sectionals are hugely important as is seeing how the race unfolds in front of you.
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For what it's worth, Frankel, Alpine Star got a Raceform Topspeed of 110 compared with Palace Pier's 108 but I'm sure I read somewhere that while Alpine Star didn't get any sectional mark-up, Palace Pier's was 17lbs due to a very fast closing sectional, suggesting the SJP was a jog-and-sprint affair.
 
Desert Orchid said:
For what it's worth, Frankel, Alpine Star got a Raceform Topspeed of 110 compared with Palace Pier's 108 but I'm sure I read somewhere that while Alpine Star didn't get any sectional mark-up, Palace Pier's was 17lbs due to a very fast closing sectional, suggesting the SJP was a jog-and-sprint affair.
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Was fairly obvious at the time how the race was run which was backed up by the sectionals.

So what are we debating here? Or what don't I understand apparently? :whistle:
 
Frankel said:
The sophisticated type of response I was expecting :lol:
Also of one who can't read a race.

I'll just make do with being right about PP winning the race. :whistle:
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Amazing how many times you got it right - after the race.:lol:
The bottom line is this - Pinatubo can't cut it in top class 1m races, as he's already proven and will continue to do so. Even Simon Rowlands, erstwhile champion of the horse now concedes that point.
 
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reet hard said:
Amazing how many times you got it right - after the race.:lol:
The bottom line is this - Pinatubo can't cut it in top class 1m races, as he's already proven and will continue to do so. Even Simon Rowlands, erstwhile champion of the horse now concedes that point.
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Yep I clearly had no clue PP was improving and Pinatubo wasn't!

You have clearly misinterpreted what I have said if you think I have been championing Pinatubo, especially over a mile.
 
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