A New Place

[dvds2000]

How I know what I know is not really the issue. The issue at hand is that Swirly Chaser did not send an illegal PM to any member of this message board. There is no evidence and was never any evidence to suggest that he did. All there was in circulation was vicious rumours and hearsay nonsense.

Are you sure about that? I presume you have read my emails and PM's and have accessed other members PM's to know this?

However, that seemed sufficient enough to have him banned by the ones in authority and the final call rests with them.

Thats right. If you have a problem with that feel free to go to another board.

To suggest that he is an internet super criminal is ludicrous.

I agree completely

It remains my opinion that Swirly Chaser was banned unjustly on the basis that no illegal PM was ever sent to any other member.

fine, so you said, no need to keep telling us.

And once again, I will make it clear that how I know what I know is not the issue.

well feel free to let me know the evidence you have that the stuff i recieved was fake and i will think about unbanning him. If you can't do that then theres no point in going on about it.

For what it's worth, for years many many people have asked me to ban Phil, and I didn't. I thought he did offer very good views on certain subjects, so please don't try to tell me I banned him for no reason, I would estimate at least half the emails and PM's I used to get were regarding Phil, if I had wanted to ban him I would have done it many years ago - like most other forums did.

 

[Guest_]

I too enjoyed Swirlys addition to the Racing forum, the simple fact is he soon strayed off racing and will do again.

 

[solerina]

I happen to know that Swirly still reads this forum on a daily basis because he e-mails at least one of us daily .He's still about God help him

 

[The World Is Not Enough]

This will be my final input on this thread as it doesn't have anything to do with racing.

If you maintain that Swirly Chaser committed a criminal offence, you are only kidding yourselves on and you know it.

What you should have received is a screen print of the offending PM and NOT a board quote (which can be faked without much effort; i.e.

Originally posted by dvds2000@Oct 2 2004, 04:36 PM
This is a doctored quote! This is a doctored quote!

- like so.)

As you never received any screen print, you didn't really have any just cause in banning him for an allegation made against him.

However, you did have the authority to ban him for breaching the board rules, something he regularly did. Just don't pretend you banned him for something that he never did.

Also, you can believe I am Swirly Chaser all you want to. Makes no difference to the planet Earth.

And to post something along the lines of "I happen to know that etc etc etc" without being more specific is just clutching at straws.

I don't happen to know this, I know this for a fact as I communicated with him earlier and I can assure you that Swirly Chaser has no interest in posting in this forum again but finds it amusing that he is considered in such high esteem.

As I suggested earlier, let it go everyone.

Now I am off to read the administrators emails and PM's.

 

[221bar1]

If he has no interest in posting on this forum then there is nothing more to be said for or against.

 

[PDJ]

Agreed.

 

[Garney]

What Ive read from Swirly on the racing forums never offended me, but as a contributor to the forum I respect that there are moderators who have been vested the authority to monitor and generally keep decorum on the site. These have access to information that many on the site do not have, and those who think that the moderators have acted inappropriatedly should definitely declare it and see if the forum agrees.

As it stands at the moment, I personally dont have any issues with the moderators, and I accept their authority as arbiter in forum disputes. My two cents.

 

[dvds2000]

As you never received any screen print, you didn't really have any just cause in banning him for an allegation made against him.

would reading someones PM's not be enough? How do you know what I did recieve?

However, you did have the authority to ban him for breaching the board rules, something he regularly did. Just don't pretend you banned him for something that he never did.

I have never pretended to ban him for anything - in fact I have never said why he was banned. People presume things that just aren't true. Ask him what his last couple of PM's were.

Also, you can believe I am Swirly Chaser all you want to. Makes no difference to the planet Earth.

I didn't say you were

And to post something along the lines of "I happen to know that etc etc etc" without being more specific is just clutching at straws.

So why post it then?

I don't happen to know this, I know this for a fact as I communicated with him earlier and I can assure you that Swirly Chaser has no interest in posting in this forum again but finds it amusing that he is considered in such high esteem.

I am fully aware of the fact he didn't want to post anymore, ref my comment above about his last couple of PM's.

 

[The World Is Not Enough]

If you didn't ban him (or restrict his posting capabilities as he isn't actually banned) for allegedly sending an offensive PM to another member, but restricted his membership for another reason then fair enough.

I just feel it is wrong to allow people to believe he was banned for something he did not do.

Anyway, enough. I have made my point. You have made yours.