'abortion Like Holocaust'

I don't approve of the snip really unless you are absolutely sure . My uncle's second marriage collapsed after a reversal of a snip failed . His wife was desperate to have kids and their relationship deteriorated .

At least new techniques sem to make reversal prospects better but 15-20% of men who have the snip suffer permanent testicular pain :o
 
I think I was about 14 when I realized I'd never WANT children. Other girls would coo over babies in prams, and I'd just think "yuk, all that poo and dribble!" I seem to have had a maternal bypass, which isn't surprising as I don't think any of the women in my family, bar one, ever actually craved, or really wanted, children. So I guess there's a bit of unconscious conditioning there. I'm told I'm 'marvellous with children', but anyone can be that when you just treat them cordially, and then go home without any responsibility for them! But I think it's a bit unreasonable to be 'desperate to have kids' when the man you've set your cap at has had a vasectomy! That means 'kids of your own' and not just kids per se, doesn't it? You could always foster needy children, or adopt the orphaned or abandoned, but it doesn't seem to be 'enough' for some.

I don't dislike the little buggers, but I never wanted the preggers/baby/toddler bit. I prefer the idea of the 'Instant Ten Year Old - just add water, and a delightful 10-y.o. child is yours, ready to play! Choose the blue packet for a boy, the pink packet for a girl, or the lilac for a Julian Clary Special!"
 
I'm sure it was very sad, James but as Jon says, (or as we may be presuming), she knew the score beforehand.

This type of problem within relationshios bugs me more and more these days as I get older and my tolerance levels fall - why do people enter into relationships and then want to change either the other person or their circumstances?

My nephew and his soon to be ex-wife are a perfect example. She met him while being a croupier on a P & O vessel he was then 2nd Mate on, they got enganged, married, two kids etc etc. From the moment she married him, she wanted him to get an on-shore job. Ryan has worked very hard and is now a Captain and one of his driving forces to achieve his ambitions was that he wanted to follow in the footsteps of his grandfather. He ain't the most academic of blokes but all his hard work has paid off but he tried to compromise and accepted a captaincy on on of the ferries between Liverpool and Ireland. Even that wasn't acceptable!

What amazes me is that she knew what his career was when she married him and this is replicated hundreds of thousands of times over.

Why????
 
James, out of interest, when you say "the snip" do you mean sterilisation in general or just vasectomies? Do you agree with women getting sterilised? I ask as, of course, the situation could be reversed - man marries sterilised woman & is desperate to have kids. I do agree with you in that I do think it's a bit drastic to get sterilised young as you never know how feelings and circumstances will change. Obviously, it's a decision for the individual though & if they feel that strongly then fine - I'd be worried about regrets in later life though as regret must be one of the worst feelings in life.
 
It is a matter of individual choice as far as I am concerned. Sterilisation is of course much more invasive and unless the woman is absolutely sure as K evidently was it may well be unwise .

My uncle was pretty much force dinto it by his first wife . When he married again his second wife thought she did not wnat children but five years in and in her mid thirties her biological clock started ticking very loud - he had two operations one to put right side effects from the first . Frankly, unless you are 100% sure you should not have it doen as far as I am concerned as you do not know what life will throw at you .
 
Soluble Aspirins always worked for my peer Group,at least we knew when a lady had changed her mind. :D
 
Ardross, I think you're thinking of hyterectomies? Those are absolutely NOT sterilization procedures! They're done (and far, far too often) for a variety of gynaecological reasons, but not for mere sterilizations. I had day-release keyhole surgery. Left a bit tender around the navel area, but totally able to work and go about my business the next day. All that happens is that the Fallopian tubes are snipped and cauterized, and away you go. There's no need for even an overnight stay.

Derek: :lol: :lol:
 
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