Advice on Analyzing Horse Racing Form Guides for Beginners

romie090

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Hi everyone,

I’m new to horse racing and excited to dive into this fascinating world, but I could use some guidance from the more experienced members here. I’ve been trying to make sense of form guides and racecards, but there’s a lot of information, and I’m not sure where to start or what’s most important to focus on.

Here are a few specific questions I have:
  1. Key Factors to Consider: When looking at a form guide, what are the top factors you prioritize? Is it the horse’s recent performances, the jockey/trainer stats, or something else entirely?
  2. Understanding Class and Weight: How much weight do you place on the class of the race or the weight the horse is carrying? Are there any rules of thumb for evaluating how these affect a horse’s chances?
  3. Track and Conditions: I’ve heard that some horses perform better on certain tracks or under specific weather conditions. Is there a straightforward way to spot python programming course in the form guide?
  4. Betting Strategies: For someone just starting out, are there any simple betting strategies you’d recommend? I’m not looking to spend big—just hoping to learn and have some fun along the way.
If you have any resources, videos, or tools you think would be helpful for a beginner like me, I’d be grateful if you could share those too.

Thanks in advance for your insights!
 
Morning, Romie.

I've been punting for 55 years (started when I was 14/15) and the bad news is that there really is no shortcut to punting successfully unless you are a naturally lucky type of person.

To be honest, if one of my nephews or nieces came to me today to tell me they wanted to get into betting horses as a pastime, I'd actively discourage them.

Unless you're prepared to put in the hard graft of studying for yourself, you effectively end up backing other people's opinions and that's a dangerous route to embark upon.

But let me tell you how I rationalised my approach after a couple of years of not doing well on the punting front.

Think about these questions:

What is a handicap?
What is its purpose?
Why do horses win handicaps?
Why does prize money vary for handicaps?

Once you crack them, the rest will pretty much fall into place.

And you'll probably still end up losing money.

All the very best and keep us posted about how you're doing.

(y)
 
In the main betting strategies stick to single bets and these days the way the markets are with extra places if you're betting with the firms you're more or less mathematically committed to backing ew unless you're backing real short prices. If you want to back seriously open up a betfair account from win only and place only bets.

Form wise there is so much I could go into but tbh wether youre here to learn or to promote whatever that link is that you've put in that I've never heard of sort of puts me off bothering to go into it all.

If you stick around the forum I'm sure you'll learn plenty..
 
Hi Romie,
2 tips
1) Get a grasp of pace - it's a fundamental that many barely bother with.
2) Use results to figure why a horse won - there's a reason for everything.
 
It’s one thing sorting out a horse who can win, but it’s quite another sorting out a horse that’s ready to win. For me that means watching plenty of racing to note horses who have run well (particularly if they have met some sort of trouble, but have been strong in the finish) then looking at their form in the next race to see whether they are capable of winning that race and have conditions to suit. The rationale is that trainers won’t waste the opportunity when a horse has shown itself ready to rock.
 
Don't overthink things. your bet should have at least a half decent chance on form Check he likes the current going If betting small don't back anything less than 3/1
 
If checking form, distance and going is your thing, then don't bother, it is already built into the odds. You won't win full stop. You need an edge that no one else has found or can be arsed to analyse. You have to be totally anal in finding that. Don't worry about life at all, just devote yourself to "the game". Stop bothering about your life, family or anything.

Find some other form of moneymaking would be my advice unless you are totally on the spectrum as I am, I made money by being on it, then it f*cked me over mentally. Don't do it.

That is from someone who is anal enough to take this game to the limit of normality.

Seriously, find another game unless you are truly abnormal

Just trying to give you some very good advice. You will have to be very special to beat this game, beware those who tell you they have, beyond a year, they are liars. They may have for a short period before the market or insanity beat them, or they are just lucky.

Good advice there, probably saved you some hard years. You will ignore it though because you think you are smarter than those that went before probably. Sorry if that sounds harsh, not meant to.

The best thing you can do is listen to the guys on here who watch NH racing every day, they know their horses, they get favourites, but each one will have a favourite but know their weaknesses and will tell them on a race day, or build up, on here. When a big race comes up they won't just say my fav will win they will probably tell you why they might not win. People on here know their NH horses better than anywhere on the net. I have learnt a lot by listening to people on here about NH racing, I kicked their arses re the flat of course:). Some smart guys and gals on here, always will be

Good luck
 
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Find some other form of moneymaking would be my advice unless you are totally on the spectrum as I am, I made money by being on it, then it f*cked me over mentally. Don't do it.

That is from someone who is anal enough to take this game to the limit of normality.

Seriously, find another game unless you are truly abnormal

It's nearly sent me to the madhouse a few times but probably for different reasons. Most of the guys I knew from the forums who i genuinely believed were pro's or at least had the ability to be were either batshit insane or at the very least completely puddled in the nicest possible sense. I think one of the most insane things I remember hearing of someone doing was google earthing a track in Chile where a horse that had been imported over here had been running to see if he'd could draw any edge from it. All he could conclude is that the horse would be alright on Good to Firm as next to the race track was a a river bed that had completely dried up. Watching all the speed rater guys as they developed down the years fascinated me I have a basic understanding myself but some of those guys we're different level including yourself EC.

I was always a bit different in my approach but did alright out of it in the end but could never really reach that next level. I probably did everything that I'd advise somebody not to do as I just enjoy gambling too much and wasn't very disciplined. I always said that I did just enough good stuff to cover the daft stuff and leaves a few sheckels over. Knowing my own weaknesses on the discipline side I made sure I put most of the wins to good use and it at least allowed me to pay my house off start to finish in around 9 years which has stood me in good stead since.

The thing that broke me mentally was I had a spell where over 3 months the last legs of multiples let me down for 5 figure wins it was either 5 or 6 times, two of those were beats right on the jamstick one being Sunnyhill Boy in the Nash. This was at a time where I'd never won a 5 figure sum and I have still only done it once to this day. I had a fair few more near misses more than it seems possible to of had but I had spells lying in bed at night where I was basically seeing replays of finishes on my bedroom ceiling. These bets weren't massive either probably between £40-80 at the time. I nearly pulled one off on here once with a £10 e/w ante post double where I had Guitar Pete win at 33/1 and Double Shuffle 2nd in the King George at 66/1.

When I think back at how many times I rattled the bar and at the time I was really just an erratic desperado but a half decent judge. It makes me wonder now I'm a bit more settled mentally and financially whether its worth putting a concentrated effort in to grabbing one big payday.

Since I've returned to having a dabble probably 9 months ago now, I have singles and seem to just go around in circles win some,lose some and I don't bet big enough that its ever gonna change anything financially for me. Most would say chasing big paydays is a mugs game and you should grind it out steadily. As you've said EC to do that these days, you'd have to be so anal about it all with all the restrictions, accounts gone and whatever else in the general tightening up. Then going on betfair and if you tend to back a lot of longshots the losing runs in of themselves can break you mentally. So looking at it, especially for a guy like me I think chasing big paydays whether it be through multiples, big trifectas or having a serious go at Jackpot rollover pools may be the lesser of two evils.

It would take a serious amount of money to change my life in any way these days I'm not sure where but its somewhere in 6 figures. I could spend my whole life trying to win that and never get anywhere near but the odd consolation of a 5 figure win paying for a new kitchen or a car or something might make it worth while. Like you I think its pretty much impossible to make a go of it long term its certainly harder than it was even just 5-10 years ago. The way I look at it is I'm back enjoying my racing which at one point I never thought possible, I'm a lot more laid back about the bets these days as I don't need the dough like I used to and my daughter is all grown up now. So it matters not really whether I win or lose but to land something special, the big one, one last hurrah is something that i see as my divine right. For the hours I put in to learning the game in which time I could have become a brain surgeon twice over and for all the heartbreak endured down the years. At this point in my life its more a point of pride and something to tell the grandkids about, and maybe put them through college to boot.

I may even start a blog on here so you can follow the journey if ever I can figure out how the blog function bloody works.
 
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It's nearly sent me to the madhouse a few times but probably for different reasons. Most of the guys I knew from the forums who i genuinely believed were pro's or at least had the ability to be were either batshit insane or at the very least completely puddled in the nicest possible sense. I think one of the most insane things I remember hearing of someone doing was google earthing a track in Chile where a horse that had been imported over here had been running to see if he'd could draw any edge from it. All he could conclude is that the horse would be alright on Good to Firm as next to the race track was a a river bed that had completely dried up. Watching all the speed rater guys as they developed down the years fascinated me I have a basic understanding myself but some of those guys we're different level including yourself EC.

I was always a bit different in my approach but did alright out of it in the end but could never really reach that next level. I probably did everything that I'd advise somebody not to do as I just enjoy gambling too much and wasn't very disciplined. I always said that I did just enough good stuff to cover the daft stuff and leaves a few sheckels over. Knowing my own weaknesses on the discipline side I made sure I put most of the wins to good use and it at least allowed me to pay my house off start to finish in around 9 years which has stood me in good stead since. The thing that broke me mentally was I had a spell where over 3 months the last legs of multiples let me down for 5 figure wins it was either 5 or 6 times, two of those were beats right on the jamstick one being Sunnyhill Boy in the Nash. This was at a time where I'd never won a 5 figure sum and I have still only done it once to this day. I had a fair few more near misses more than it seems possible to of had but I had spells lying in bed at night where I was basically seeing replays of finishes on my bedroom ceiling. These bets weren't massive either probably between £40-80 at the time. I nearly pulled one off on here once with a £10 e/w ante post double where I had Guitar Pete win at 33/1 and Double Shuffle 2nd in the King George at 66/1. When I think back at how many times I rattled the bar and at the time I was really just an erratic desperado but a half decent judge. It makes me wonder now I'm a bit more settled mentally and financially whether its worth putting a concentrated effort in to grabbing one big payday. Since I've returned to having a dabble probably 9 months ago now, I have singles and seem to just go around in circles win some,lose some and I don't bet big enough that its ever gonna change anything financially for me. Most would say chasing big paydays is a mugs game and you should grind it out steadily. As you've said EC to do that these days, you'd have to be so anal about it all with all the restrictions, accounts gone and whatever else in the general tightening up. Then going on betfair and if you tend to back a lot of longshots the losing runs in of themselves can break you mentally. So looking at it, especially for a guy like me I think chasing big paydays whether it be through multiples, big trifectas or having a serious go at Jackpot rollover pools may be the lesser of two evils. It would take a serious amount of money to change my life in any way these days I'm not sure where but its somewhere in 6 figures. I could spend my whole life trying and never get anywhere near but the odd consolation of a 5 figure win paying for a new kitchen or a car or something might make it worth while. Like you I think its pretty much impossible to make a go of it long term its certainly harder than it was even just 5-10 years ago. The way I look at it is I'm back enjoying my racing which at one point I never thought possible, I'm a lot more laid back about the bets these days as I don't need the dough like I used to and my daughter is all grown up now. So it matters not really whether I win or lose but to land something special, the big one, one last hurrah is something that i see as my divine right. For the hours I put in to learning the game in which time I could have become a brain surgeon twice over and for all the heartbreak endured down the years. At this point in my life its more a point of pride and something to tell the grandkids about, and maybe put them through college to boot.

I may even start a blog on here so you can follow the journey if ever I can figure out how the blog function bloody works.
Firstly Danny, I am awarding you the prize for the longest paragraph in history:) Seriously though, great reply. Glad your daughter is now grown up and that means like me, you don't worry about her, hopefully. When my son was growing up, gambling on horses was not my worry, I worked and was ok moneywise. On saying that, I still worry about him as we all all do, parenthood never ever ends does it?

Long term gambling to win to me would have meant total insanity, timing sectionals by eye on replay videos. I did it for a long period and if it weren't for looking after my cat I would have gone mental.

That is just one aspect I talk about, reading past races spotting horses that should have won due to being pace negatived. To someone who thinks studying pace in past races as in giving future winners is silly, that is spotting potential winners from past races, well who would have thought that?

I put lots of winners from that period on here, I also pm'd Colin some too.

I am getting old now, the future looks short to me with my lifestyle so it all looks less important now compared with my 10 year old self when I look back at my posts on here. I was so angry and not tolerant of others views then. I don't actually recognise the person who posted some of those views. I read stuff on here now and am still angry about stuff but don't see anyone as this strange angry enemy I might have thought they were. People I have recently opposed in views I just see as people I just disagree with, I ask of them questions as to their views, but still respect their opinions on racing, Luke and Tanlic being two who I tend to cross with now and in the past. It s all just about opinion, but I know we all love this game.

It is odd when you look at posts on a forum, those people who you may often disagree with most, grab your eye first, you always want to see someone's view who you normally disagree with first? Maybe that is just me? People on here I always read are those I think will wind me up most. I'm probably not normal of course.

My most read first in the past, was always Reet hard, we have a great history of falling out, mainly on my part, yet now I respect his comments and views more than most. I think we are so similar in type, that we were always going to conflict, which is really odd when you think about it.

No matter what people think of me in the past when we have fallen out, I have always respected people's views no matter how I might not have appeared to.

Grasshopper needs to get himself back on here too.
 
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Yeah where's grassy gone ? And is Slim still about ? I knew a few members were missing but couldn't think who I think double j and L wilson were another couple plus a few others who I'm struggling to remember. I know dvds and diamond geezer passed away what happened to the other Colin is he still about ?

Tanlic bust my ball's for the first 2 years I was on here but I've grown to love him.

And I vaguely remember you blowing up a few times which seemed out of sorts for you as I'd only ever known you to be knowledgable and most helpful.

And apologies for any poor punctuation and long paragraphs I'm not as well educated as most here plus it's been a long day 8 hours being dragged around the bullring by my daughter followed by one of those nights where I just can't seem to sleep.
 
Yeah where's grassy gone ? And is Slim still about ? I knew a few members were missing but couldn't think who I think double j and L wilson were another couple plus a few others who I'm struggling to remember. I know dvds and diamond geezer passed away what happened to the other Colin is he still about ?

Tanlic bust my ball's for the first 2 years I was on here but I've grown to love him.

And I vaguely remember you blowing up a few times which seemed out of sorts for you as I'd only ever known you to be knowledgable and most helpful.

And apologies for any poor punctuation and long paragraphs I'm not as well educated as most here plus it's been a long day 8 hours being dragged around the bullring by my daughter followed by one of those nights where I just can't seem to sleep.
I was only kiddin about the paragraph Danny, I can do the same. It is like you spew it out from your head and don't think about someone reading, done it so many times.

There are so many past members missing, so many people I have got used to reading in 20 years here and other places. Some will have sadly passed that we know about and some who will have passed that we do not know they have done.

Tanlic busts everyone's balls at some point, it is who he is, forgot how many times we fell out, but he is that person, he won't change, but forum would not be same without him. Some will view me like they do him and hate me in a similar way. Shame really as me and Tanlic are similar in strong opinion that sometimes can offend.

I've been a right tw&t at times on here Danny along with also hopefully being helpful to some. I have got very passionate about the game in the past, hopefully a quieter type now. Keep posting your thoughts, it gets other people posting what is really on their mind too.

You have always been an honest poster that says stuff others won't admit to because they might seem somehow showing a weak side, when in fact, your admissions are exactly the opposite of that.

I will say now openly, I am an alcoholic, have been for a few years, hence I cannot do the racing stuff like I used to. I am happy with it, I am old and what the f*ck does anything matter when you are old and something will eat into you anyway?
 
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I'm trying to give the booze up to some extent this year. I've had spells in life where I've drank heavily and spells in life where I've hardly drank at all. The last 5-6 years I've drank a lot but not in a party sort of way it's more in a oh fuck it sort of way.

I think it's part of a long running mid life crisis. I always found life easier when I was broke. You have no options when you're broke you just get up work and pay who's got to be paid and live week to week. You've got nothing worth anything so no fear of losing anything. When you have struggled for a long period of time suddenly it's comfort that makes you most uncomfortable.

Kids growing up doesn't help either your life revolves around them and then they turn into adults and start living there own lives.

Then as man as your getting older firstly the point where you feel indestructable goes. That slowly gravitates into waking and thinking which bit of my body is gonna drop off or break today. That point where you drop something on the floor and it's suddenly an oh shit moment. It's no fun is it.Top that with a bit of overthinking and it's a lot easier to have a few drinks and switch off at the end of every day.

However I'm thinking I'm gonna have one last rattle at life I'm gonna whip my fat ass into shape I'm at least going to stop drinking in the house . I'm on a mission from here on in to land a monumental gamble. I'm also on a mission to start visiting as many courses as possible starting hopefully with Warwick next Saturday. I'm gonna work as little as possible and play as much as possible and if all else fails I can always drink myself to death next year.
 
Being diagnosed with Leukaemia slowed me down. I still like a pint of beer but just a couple of times a week .
I now use a very simple method for selecting my bets that seems to be working.
 
This is all getting very deep, chaps :) .

The light came on for me after years of betting with the objective to make serious money (trying to) when I finally accepted that I didn’t have the balls for it. Much more fun since then.
 
Being diagnosed with Leukaemia slowed me down. I still like a pint of beer but just a couple of times a week .
I now use a very simple method for selecting my bets that seems to be working.

Firstly that's a real tough beat and real world problems rather than a middle aged guy moaning about being a bit fed up with things. Hope treatment is going alright fella.

Something I've found I have to accept in horse racing is sometimes the simplest answer is actually the answer. I used to spend far too much time not just simply accepting the obvious amd trying to find something exotic when I knew I was trying to beat a rock solid favourite.
 
Being diagnosed with Leukaemia slowed me down. I still like a pint of beer but just a couple of times a week .
I now use a very simple method for selecting my bets that seems to be working.

Missed that first time round. Hope it’s under control and you keep well on top of it.
 
What a fantastic discourse, and thank you to all of you for throwing yourselves open. I really hope you get the best treatment, walsworth.

There really is something about this forum that lends itself to opening up emotionally at times. It’s probably because the chasing of winners is an intellectual exercise at its purest. I remember the 2014 Champion Hurdle thread - peak forumites going at it. Some wonderful stuff there. I’ll dig it out one day.

But my point is that the pursuit of a winner, - if it involves great mental effort and if the “workings” of that effort are shared here - transcends cold logic. Picking a winner of a horse race is way beyond that. So, we look for our edges; the stuff no one else sees, the unquantifiable. And when it comes off, yes, that’s a fantastically emotional experience.

I only share stuff, when I think I have something worthy to offer; and compared to others’ contributions, my thoughts are rarely “worthy”. But it’s still fascinating to follow the arguments.

I love a good argument on the other non-race related forums on here, though. And I will stand my ground.

My very favourite people on this forum are on this thread - I have great respect for you all. I’m a drinker too, but learning to rein it in, as I get older. Hardly ever drink at home these days, but do love a night out; six pints is my limit at the age of 61.

Very nearly retired, and I have 40 years in the civil service, no kids, and a good wife to thank for that. I will now concentrate on writing more books about football from the olden days - retire to do the things you enjoy.

Btw, despite all the intellectual opinion shared as to who would win the 2014 CH, the race was won by the largely overlooked Jezki at 9/1, wearing first-time headgear. 2014 was the first year we fully grasped the significance of that “edge”!
 
Being diagnosed with Leukaemia slowed me down. I still like a pint of beer but just a couple of times a week .
I now use a very simple method for selecting my bets that seems to be working.
Think you have been through a lot recently, all power to you for getting through it and feeling positive. Takes some doing does that. All the best.
 
It's warming to read this thread, so it is.

I bet for hardly anything. My 'edge' happens to be staying races on the flat and NH but mostly looking for staying chasers. To be honest, it's mostly about cracking the 'science' of finding potential, a horse that can and wants to jump, recognising class and getting to know the horses that I do find. In that way I'm able, perhaps, to not back my horse because I know conditions aren't right.

Breeding, going, distance, stable stats and stable form are some of the many factors I'll look at. I like to practice watching any races just to see, early doors, if I can tell what's "travelling" in a race. Being able to 'read' races is invaluable, I reckon.

I can tell you now that, even with all this going for me, I've had just one year in the last ten where I've made profit and that was for a pittance. Haha!

But so what? Racing and its 'science' gives me untold pleasure and, given the amount I lose, I get tremendous value. Many people will follow their 'unracing' pleasures at far, far more cost won't they? How much does watching live professional football cost?
 
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