Ascot - Champions Day

Euronymous said:
Mishriff was near the top of his game at Sandown and York. Bad ride in the former, ran into a mid 130s beast in the latter.

The thing about being around that level (135/136) is you haven't got as much of a buffa. Frankel had a stone on his rivals in the same race so he could run 8/9lbs below form and still win.

That's why all these Aussie horses run up sequences over different distances, if they're 126 beasts they are running against 110-115 animals and so can have various performance levels and still win. Over here you haven't got that luxury - there are more horses in the upper middle area of the pyramid.
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Mishriff goes for the Breeder's Cup Turf (7/1) and the likely fast ground will suit perfectly. Imo, the Arc was used as a training run - and it showed.
 
chaumi said:
Shelir's stated targets in mid July were the Goodwood Mile and the Clipper Logistics (straight from O'Meara's mouth). So basically he told us he thought Shelir was good enough to mix it in high quality handicap company. Was only beat 2 lengths in the Goodwood. Has traditionally been a prominent racer, most times when he hit softish ground ran well against some big enough names.

I think they worked out that holding him up was the ideal tactic during the win at Ripon (good ground but looked like he just beat up on inferior opponents) which was why JW took a pull at the start today.

It's real easy in hindsight, but actually you could argue the writing was faintly on the wall. Personally, I thought Rhoscolyn was the one today. You live and learn!

Next season the call may be to look for a string of prominent-run losses and try to second guess (or watch in-running) for the hold-up.
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Spot on, Chaumi. trainer stated - after Ripon win
QUOTES: SHELIR has probably been running a lot better than his finishing positions have been suggesting. He's been having some hard races. We often pop him out - his last win was when making the running at York - but we decided not to do it this time and it suited him sitting in. He enjoyed it. He's a got a few more good races in him this season and the Balmoral Handicap is definitely an option again - David O'Meara, trainer.
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viz;he need dropping out to get the mile. He was yesterday, after 2 prominent runs.
 
reet hard said:
Mishriff goes for the Breeder's Cup Turf (7/1) and the likely fast ground will suit perfectly. Imo, the Arc was used as a training run - and it showed.
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He is 10/1 in a place, Reet.

The Turf should be interesting this year.

I still like Rebel Romance. I am not convinced by yesterdays form. The proximity of My Prospero to the front two leaves me with doubt about the form. Baeed didn't run near to his York form either. I see the ground could be the reason for that.
 
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Marb said:
He is 10/1 in a place, Reet.

The Turf should be interesting this year.

I still like Rebel Romance. I am not convinced by yesterdays form. The proximity of My Prospero to the front two leaves me with doubt about the form. Baeed didn't run near to his York form either. I see the ground could be the reason for that.
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I'd say the ground was responsible for most of the results yesterday, reckon it was somewhere south south of the official g/s, based on times
 
Euronymous said:
Mishriff was near the top of his game at Sandown and York. Bad ride in the former, ran into a mid 130s beast in the latter.

The thing about being around that level (135/136) is you haven't got as much of a buffa. Frankel had a stone on his rivals in the same race so he could run 8/9lbs below form and still win.

That's why all these Aussie horses run up sequences over different distances, if they're 126 beasts they are running against 110-115 animals and so can have various performance levels and still win. Over here you haven't got that luxury - there are more horses in the upper middle area of the pyramid.
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I've taken the 10/1 Mishriff (Hills) for the BC Turf as I reckon this has been the target for a while.
 
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