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Sorry if this thread may bore people but I'm eyeing one up! :)

Bacchus has only been on the racecourse once this season, but is an eye-catching entry nevertheless.

He would be coming back from a three month break on Saturday, but did win first time out in 2017 and 2018 which would indicate he goes well fresh.

He beat the now 115+ rated Dakota Gold giving him seven pounds. He won the Wokingham beating the well fancied Dreamfield.

I'm seeing what happens tomorrow and at the final declaration stage on Thursday.

I'd be prepared to forgive Bacchus for the last several runs, he's come down the handicap a few pounds and there's nothing wrong with that.
 
I had a decent bet earlier (each way) on him. Enough to make me feel good if he is declared and shortens up, but not enough to make me feel sick if he is taken out. :)
 
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Bacchus is on my radar but I'm not backing it just yet. I've nibbled at Merhoob (66/1) as it's the only one of those I have rated to win an average renewal that's significantly over-priced (imho).
 
Lads

when he ran at Ascot this year here is what the trainer said..

17.00 Bacchus You can't beat a tried and tested method. Bacchus has won first time out for the last two seasons and did so when winning last hyear's Wokingham. Two weeks ago Jim Crowley came down and rode him in a lovely piece of work and booked himself for the repeat ride straight after. Imagine how much confidence that gives a trainer. Everything has gone right since and now age five we think he's even better than last year. Now it's all up to Bacchus!

trends below are from punters lounge,

Trends

10/10 Winners ran within 35 days :rolleyes:
8/10 Winners aged 5 or under
8/10 Carried 9st or more
9/10 Winners rated 101 or more
9/10 Winners drawn 8 or over
15/22 first 4 last time (6 won)
21/22 had at least 4 starts this season :rolleyes:
16/22 Won at 6f previously
 
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At this juncture I don't believe I could accurately predict the winner (even with those stats to look at), but when backing him earlier, I did so because he could make 25/1 look value and definitely grab a place if coming back to form.

He would be an unorthordox winner but he's proven class so I reckon that may override his latest few form figures.

That's code for: I haven't got a clue, if he runs, I've taken my chance. :)

I've now got this sinking feeling, that he'll go the way of all good each way anti-post bets and get taken out. :(

He hasn't run for three months. To all intense and purposes it would be like running first time out.

Good to see you posting, DO.

I hope all is good, or as good as it can be.
 
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I fancy 10 marb.ive cut it down to 5.at the start of this season I put up CAMACHO CHIEF as my cliff horse for the season with the proviso Paula muir was replaced and hes won once at a short price and has run a couple of good races behind its stablemate dakota gold.so I've risked a bit at 33/1.
SUMMERGHAND and GULLIVER (who was unlucky last sunday at the curragh) are 2 of possibly 6 0'meara chances.
I have to do LAKE VOLTA and the other is STONE OF DESTINY.
Just waiting now to see if they run and what draw they get.
 
There's loads of confirmed runners with 0's next to their name or who didn't even finish placed in their last run...I'm just a bit gutted as with no jockey booked it looks like Bacchus is not going to be declared.
 
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Outsider said:
I fancy 10 marb.ive cut it down to 5.at the start of this season I put up CAMACHO CHIEF as my cliff horse for the season with the proviso Paula muir was replaced and hes won once at a short price and has run a couple of good races behind its stablemate dakota gold.so I've risked a bit at 33/1.
SUMMERGHAND and GULLIVER (who was unlucky last sunday at the curragh) are 2 of possibly 6 0'meara chances.
I have to do LAKE VOLTA and the other is STONE OF DESTINY.
Just waiting now to see if they run and what draw they get.
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Camacho chief is a NR and so is Lake volta.good job I hadnt lumped on Camacho chief.thats twice I've lost a/p on him.wont I ever learn.
 
Lol I'm glad I get a run for my money with Bacchus. Colm O Donoghue rides. Also rides two good chances of Stoute's earlier on the card.

My pick is drawn 25, is that good or bad? Buffer Zone is drawn 21, so at least we are near to him.
 
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I see Danny Tudhope has chosen ARECEBO over O'meara' other runners.
The more I look at the race the more I like.i just watched the last 10 runnings and I think Kevin Ryan must have had 3 of them and Fahey a couple.
 
Haha it's a race full of cliff horses. What about Golden Apollo? I mentioned him a few times on this place earlier in his career. One forum member even went off to ask Tim Easterby about him. Roger Fell's other runner, Presidential is surely overpriced too. He improved massively since the gelding operation.
 
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Haha it's a race full of cliff horses. What about Golden Apollo? I mentioned him a few times on this place earlier in his career. One forum member even went off to ask Tim Easterby about him. Roger Fell's other runner, Presidential is surely overpriced too. He improved massively since the gelding operation.
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You are right about cliff horses and golden apollo is one of mine.
 
Presidential out.

I've changed my mind which is no bad thing sometimes. Royal Residence gets the nod from me in the Silver Cup.

Good luck tomorrow, Outsider.
 
Bacchus hadn't come in his coat by Royal Ascot so he never looked like repeating lat year's Wokingham win. He's looking great now and working back at his best. The ground and draw both are fine, but it's probably a watching brief for him today.

Trainer B.Meehan.
 
Oh dear well I was bound to miss Golden Apollo today.

I actually feel if Admirality wasn't running I'd have done the Tim Easterby horse.

How annoying.

Who keeps piling on Admirality is anyone's guess. My head gave up on him three runs ago.

Do the honourable thing connections and put him away for another year please.
 
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