Boylesports... whats the matter with them?

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clivex

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I am not the sort of punter that bets amounts that could ever cause anyone any problems and bet just a couple of times a week unless at the races.

I have had a very good year but my Boylesports account has been steady with a nice accrued balance over the years.

Wanted no more than a tenner today on at 7/2. "account restricted" Phoned. they said try a smaller amount. WTF?

Are they always like this ? Are they in trouble?
 
They restricted me to SP only after a couple of bets (losers too)
Joke outfit but they are not alone.
 
Yes. Clowns.

Do bookies share info? One other account with a rival has rocketed this year (im not swanking.... just making a point) .

Otherwise how can they nail you so quickly Harry
 
clivex said:
Yes. Clowns.

Do bookies share info? One other account with a rival has rocketed this year (im not swanking.... just making a point) .

Otherwise how can they nail you so quickly Harry
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taking under market prices with £50 bets is all I did.
Stan James was less than 5 bets (account closed) and Racebets was after my first bet (even money winner) only SP offered.
As I said, they aren't winning bets just ones that are beating SP prices often. They all limit, some quicker than others, much quicker.

They just want the "Acca" punters

888 32Red and Unibet all seemed to be connected where my restrictions were concerned.
 
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harry said:
They just want the "Acca" punters
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Twice in the past week I have attempted to avail of their 5+ football acca insurance offer to £25.

Both times when I have gone to place the bets they have been rejected due to them operating "Risk Control" procedures - whatever that means.

Have deleted the app now and won't be using them again.
 
i'll just make the observation..why bother with bookies?..just use Betfair...has anyone ever been refused a bet on there?
f00kin fiver/tenner?..whats the point?
 
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EC1 said:
i'll just make the observation..why bother with bookies?..just use Betfair...has anyone ever been refused a bet on there?
f00kin fiver/tenner?..whats the point?
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Because you can make a lot of money betting with bookies and laying with Betfair.....if you get the price right you have a free bet every time even covering the betfair commission very lucrative but time consuming and short lived as mentioned above.
 
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harry said:
taking under market prices with £50 bets is all I did.
Stan James was less than 5 bets (account closed) and Racebets was after my first bet (even money winner) only SP offered.
As I said, they aren't winning bets just ones that are beating SP prices often. They all limit, some quicker than others, much quicker.

They just want the "Acca" punters

888 32Red and Unibet all seemed to be connected where my restrictions were concerned.
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They are the same firm.

I opened an account with 32Red last night and my first bet request was €125 @ 80/1 on Rooney/Man Utd double. A complete mug bet. I was allowed €6.26
 
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clivex said:
I am not the sort of punter that bets amounts that could ever cause anyone any problems and bet just a couple of times a week unless at the races.

I have had a very good year but my Boylesports account has been steady with a nice accrued balance over the years.

Wanted no more than a tenner today on at 7/2. "account restricted" Phoned. they said try a smaller amount. WTF?

Are they always like this ? Are they in trouble?
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The secret is to lose and make sure you lose enough to justify their admin work then they will never restrict you nor will the close your account:D
 
harry said:
Because you can make a lot of money betting with bookies and laying with Betfair.....if you get the price right you have a free bet every time even covering the betfair commission very lucrative but time consuming and short lived as mentioned above.
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i understand that Harry..but you know after a while surely you will get your account reduced with a bookie doing this if you are any good at it. If you compare an ordinary punters account to an arbers account i would imagine it doesn't take long before bookie Bill spots the arber and reduces his stake.

i just don't see the arbing as a long term project..you will get found out and reduced to a level that makes arbing poiintless

far better spend time finding a winning strategy overall and just play betfair..as the alternative is spend same time looking for arbs and being restricted to 20 quid bet or whatever

to me arbing was a novelty when betfair started..now its exposed and as such isn't really going to put bread on the table as bookies are aware of it..it was a glich for a while..but surely now that time has passed

the arbing game was an "in that time" strategy..not a long time burner imo
 
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multiples are avilable Slim..i don't use them loads but i'm not seeing any advantage any bookie has over betfair..in fact the reverse

i haven't used a bookie since days i went in shops regular..15 years+ ago..i'm surprised anyone still uses them..amazed tbh that i still hear about people not getting what they want on

obviously i'm not in your league of stakes:)

i do ok though,,,without one bookie..and have done for years
 
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EC1 said:
E/W bets
Multiples
etc
etc

you can have those on betfair Slim
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The e/w markets on Betfair are a very good addition but obviously these bets are more value with a sportsbook albeit this kind of business gets you closed.

I think the biggest problem these days is complete mugs get restricted because they have low margin bets. These customers may not even be aware that these bets are good value.
 
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i understand that Harry..but you know after a while surely you will get your account reduced with a bookie doing this if you are any good at it. If you compare an ordinary punters account to an arbers account i would imagine it doesn't take long before bookie Bill spots the arber and reduces his stake.

i just don't see the arbing as a long term project..you will get found out and reduced to a level that makes arbing poiintless

far better spend time finding a winning strategy overall and just play betfair..as the alternative is spend same time looking for arbs and being restricted to 20 quid bet or whatever

to me arbing was a novelty when betfair started..now its exposed and as such isn't really going to put bread on the table as bookies are aware of it..it was a glich for a while..but surely now that time has passed

the arbing game was an "in that time" strategy..not a long time burner imo
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its paid for 2 family Florida Disney holidays so I'm glad I did it!
The enhanced football specials are easy money eg) X wins and BTTS
I don't arb where you win either way, I take the bookie price then lay on betfair....if the horse loses...no loss to me and if it wins I win the difference. I had upwards of 20 accounts including "wife" and played them for well over a year.
Enjoyed it immensely and couldn't care a less to be restricted: Don't and won't bet using my own money.....had years of that
 
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harry said:
its paid for 2 family Florida Disney holidays so I'm glad I did it!
The enhanced football specials are easy money eg) X wins and BTTS
I don't arb where you win either way, I take the bookie price then lay on betfair....if the horse loses...no loss to me and if it wins I win the difference. I had upwards of 20 accounts including "wife" and played them for well over a year.
Enjoyed it immensely and couldn't care a less to be restricted: Don't and won't bet using my own money.....had years of that
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fair play Harry..wouldn't be for me beacsue i'd see an end to it coming even if it didn't..ie its too good to be true etc.
 
SlimChance said:
The e/w markets on Betfair are a very good addition but obviously these bets are more value with a sportsbook albeit this kind of business gets you closed.

I think the biggest problem these days is complete mugs get restricted because they have low margin bets. These customers may not even be aware that these bets are good value.
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I guess my outlook is very simple..back a few horses..if it makes money..i'm happy as i must be doing something others punters aren't seeing..so i just stick to betfair

hosses for courses as they say.

you guys are shrewder than i am with the betting..not my strength tbh...i just want a profit
 
I see no real reason now not to use exchanges more I dont obsess over the fractions too much because im not betting much at all.

whats odd about this is that account has been at same level for around three years. why now?
 
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