Boylesports... whats the matter with them?

harry said:
Believe me, Paddy Power are not the good guys: they limit just like all the others.
I only used to bet their enhanced offers on footy and racing and lasted well over a year.
Their regular odds for horses are cringeworthy and frankly not worth looking at.
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If you're only betting on negative margin prices than you deserve to be closed.
 
SlimChance said:
The guy can get on with Bet365 and he's complaining.

**** my life.

That article is essentially a load of bollocks. He's not covering any new ground. I have ZERO accounts left, yes ZERO. You find other ways to get bets on if you want to win. The premise that bookmakers have the odds in their favour is an absolute myth. Is anyone seriously telling me that Bet365 make money on a Saturday the way they trade their prices and offers? I doubt they make more than 2% on racing from UK and Irish punters every year. They run it as a loss leader.
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what would you say gets you banned/restricted from 365?
 
Problem with Betfair as we all know ,is you cant get any serious money on till the death. And then only half serious money or less
 
Roddy Owen said:
Problem with Betfair as we all know ,is you cant get any serious money on till the death. And then only half serious money or less
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well..it seems from reading this thread that you can't get even get 50 quid on with majority of bookies so how is betfair inferior?.

If this morning you wanted 500 on a horse..then betfair is the only place you'll get obliged..just randomly picking a handicap..on a quiet monday shows the 3.45 at ripon has had 20k traded on it..which bookies are competing with taking that in bets?...because it looks like some people here are liimted to a tenner..which makes that particular bookie highly inferior to betfair from what i can glean from the thread

for the punter who bets up to say 500..he hasn't an alternative to betfair if he wants to get on..has he?..i don't know ..i don't use bookies..

but solution looks straightforward really if people want to use a bookie.

lets say your half serious money..which i've no idea what amount you are meaning....so will say 10 grand?..who will lay you that at a price you want?..and if you know someone that will..just let everyone know who uses bookies on this thread.....they can get account with such a bookie and all problems solved i would think..is it not that simple to solve this?
 
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alternatively..would think Gigilo is best person to ask how to get amounts on..he gets best prices on all his bets from what i've seen on his thread from even the samllest outfits..he should have some idea of where to get money on in decent amounts

this can't be that hard ro suss out surely with hitters we have on here
 
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Example. Right now you could have 553 pounds on Parkour at 9.14/1 with Betfair. The same horse is 8/1 with most bookies and they wouldn't lay you 8 bananas

No idea if that horse will win it's not the point. The point is in 15 minutes you could have 2k on at 9/1 guaranteed and you'd be on to plums if you tried to get a one off bet with your bookie like that.

in the time I have taken to type this 24 min before the off you could have an addition 200 on at the same price.
 
21 minutes before the off and you can have 20k on the first fav at around 7/4 already 58k matched again try a bookie and you will be hunted
 
Tanlic said:
Example. Right now you could have 553 pounds on Parkour at 9.14/1 with Betfair. The same horse is 8/1 with most bookies and they wouldn't lay you 8 bananas

No idea if that horse will win it's not the point. The point is in 15 minutes you could have 2k on at 9/1 guaranteed and you'd be on to plums if you tried to get a one off bet with your bookie like that.

in the time I have taken to type this 24 min before the off you could have an addition 200 on at the same price.
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looks a no brainer really to me..a tenner on ..or hundreds..whats the prob really?..the main gripe on thread seems to be getting money on..but it seems some do get money on with bookies and you can have virtually yer nads on with betfair..betfair don't close your account either.

again i'd ask..if Roddy and Gigilo are getting large amounts on..why not just ask them to put the bookies up who will take large bets..seems easy to sort really

...20k available as Tanlic has just said on one hoss...isn't that better than a tenner or 50?
 
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Grey said:
http://www.theguardian.com/global/2015/aug/02/betting-horses-gambling-bookmakers-accounts-closed

This is a good article which reflects a lot of the discussion on here.

I think Alex Salmond is right that the way to counter these practices is to make it a condition of a bookmaker licence that they accept any bets at advertised odds to win a reasonable amount.

I would also suggest a panel to which customers can appeal if they get restricted or closed down. The panel would have the power to seek a confidential explanation from the bookmaker, supported by facts, and decide whether their behaviour is reasonable. Unreasonable decisions could be reported to the licencing authority and taken into account when licences are up for renewal.
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Betting articles written for the mainstream press are generally boll*ocks........and this one is no different. Clearly people get their accounts boxed, but the writer of this article comes across 100% as a Walter Mitty type.

As for Salmond, at least he is consistent when it comes to vague, unworkable notions - the fat fu*cking tit.
 
SlimChance said:
Is anyone seriously telling me that Bet365 make money on a Saturday the way they trade their prices and offers? I doubt they make more than 2% on racing from UK and Irish punters every year. They run it as a loss leader.
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You reckon?

The past financial year, Bet365 increased their annual profits by 80% year-on-year to £320 million.
This is more than the total online profits of PaddyPower, William Hill, and Betfair, combined.

http://bgrecruitment.com/bet365-go-strength-strength/
 
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Is there a per-Sport split of their revenue detailed anywhere, ice?

I would have reckoned 365's Football revenue would comfortably-outweigh their Horse-racing revenue (admittedly, it's speculation on my part)?
 
Grasshopper said:
Is there a per-Sport split of their revenue detailed anywhere, ice?

I would have reckoned 365's Football revenue would comfortably-outweigh their Horse-racing revenue (admittedly, it's speculation on my part)?
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I've just been knocked back for a £10 4 timer for chelts!!! 5.35 offered.... Thats just stupid!
 
Grasshopper said:
I would have reckoned 365's Football revenue would comfortably-outweigh their Horse-racing revenue (admittedly, it's speculation on my part)?
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I think you nay be close to the truth, there, Grass.
Knowing that a large percentage of Bet365's staking income is from mainland China bettors who would be more disposed to betting on football kinda underscores the theory.

On the other hand, the global football betting industry is more congested than the horseracing one. The likes of Pinnacle, Bwin, Bettson, Interwetten, etc along with the Asian bookmakers are heavyweights in the game and are direct competitors to Bet365 for business.

Hard to know, I guess, without seeing the detailed annual report of the company ................... and I'm not that desperate as to pay €199 to find out. :)
 
Back at the start of June I was allowed 35 cents by PaddyPower on Ronaldo First-Goalscorer in the Champions League semi final .
 
betfair is good, but why do the so called bookies have a license if they can't take a min. bet ? Don't you find it disturbing they make billions profit from the fobts while they continue to call themselves bookmakers?
 
icebreaker said:
You reckon?

The past financial year, Bet365 increased their annual profits by 80% year-on-year to £320 million.
This is more than the total online profits of PaddyPower, William Hill, and Betfair, combined.

http://bgrecruitment.com/bet365-go-strength-strength/
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What's you point? That doesn't show the breakdown I'm talking about.

The fact that lads on here can't work out why Bet365 can't make money on horse racing is why they have Bet365 accounts.

I would love to have a betting shop full of talking horses forum members.
 
icebreaker said:
Back at the start of June I was allowed 35 cents by PaddyPower on Ronaldo First-Goalscorer in the Champions League semi final .
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You deserve to be closed. You're just arbing scum. No sympathy for you whatsoever.
 
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SlimChance said:
What's you point? That doesn't show the breakdown I'm talking about.

The fact that lads on here can't work out why Bet365 can't make money on horse racing is why they have Bet365 accounts.

I would love to have a betting shop full of talking horses forum members.
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I guess the point is whilst you seem to be suggesting that Bet365 is some sort of suicidal self-crucifying bookie -- i.e. "Is anyone seriously telling me that Bet365 make money on a Saturday the way they trade their prices and offers? I doubt they make more than 2% on racing from UK and Irish punters every year", that their annual figures would suggest otherwise.
Their annual figures would suggest that they are quite possibly the most successful online bookmaker on the planet.

The rest of your post above I don't fully understand -- something about forum members with bet365 accounts filling some mythical betting shop of yours.
 
icebreaker said:
Back at the start of June I was allowed 35 cents by PaddyPower on Ronaldo First-Goalscorer in the Champions League semi final .
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I do PaddyPower a disservice, and am happy to correct my mistake.
I have checked records, and find that I was in fact allowed 45 cents on the bet rather than the 35 cents I erroneously posted. :D

 
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