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News that an unidentified strain of Avian flu has occurred on one of Bernard Matthews' farms in Norfolk.

If this helps drive him out of business, I for one couldn't be happier !
 
Probably not, Col but his methods of production were at one time questionable, shall we say and if you feel it OK to make your living from raising food that way, when the climate changes and the general public realise this is morally unacceptable, then tough!

I've seen the video footage taken covertly in one of his production farms and it wasn't pleasant viewing. With margins even tighter and arable costs higher, then I have to wonder how his prices are still as low as they are.

However, maybe I'm being unjust and his production methods have changed.
 
Was that the secret filming of his turkey farm hands kicking the poor creatures while they were penned in under lights, with some dead turkeys lying around on the sawdust floor, Songy? The management issued an abject apology and said the workers involved would be sacked, but who knows whether there are inspections to ensure it doesn't continue?
 
Originally posted by krizon@Feb 3 2007, 08:57 PM
Was that the secret filming of his turkey farm hands kicking the poor creatures while they were penned in under lights, with some dead turkeys lying around on the sawdust floor, Songy? The management issued an abject apology and said the workers involved would be sacked, but who knows whether there are inspections to ensure it doesn't continue?
Not bootiful :angy:
Seems it is...............and BOOT being the operative word!!!
 
Originally posted by krizon@Feb 3 2007, 07:57 PM
Was that the secret filming of his turkey farm hands kicking the poor creatures while they were penned in under lights, with some dead turkeys lying around on the sawdust floor, Songy? The management issued an abject apology and said the workers involved would be sacked, but who knows whether there are inspections to ensure it doesn't continue?
Thats all to familiar with most mass chicken producers..

Give this a watch..

http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/supermarket_secrets.htm - Part 1

http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/supermarket_secrets2.htm - Part 2
 
And it gets worse....

I wonder if the packaging on Mr Matthew's products actually acknowledge the origin of mucch of his turkey meat? I doubt it, as the've already denied they were importing from this Hungarian processing unit to DEFRA.

Which leads me to wonder how much the supermarkets were aware of where his stuff came from .. Although they'll please innicence, I very much doubt it's true.

So I hope that they all get stuffed bigtime and get hurt where it counts, in their pockets. I also hope that this will be a small wake-up call to the UK consumer to care a little more about how, where and at what cost their food is derived.

But somehow I doubt it...

What IS a shame is that the backlash will hit all poultry producers, some of whom do the job right and who don't deserve to lose hard-earned money because of this unpleasant and basicaly immoral method of poultry production.
 
What IS a shame is that the backlash will hit all poultry producers, some of whom do the job right and who don't deserve to lose hard-earned money because of this unpleasant and basicaly immoral method of poultry production.

I think the exact opposite is happening. It seems to me the demand for Free Range/Organic is increasing way ahead of supply and those producers are getting premium prices for their products.
 
Haven't eaten anything from BM for years thankgod! its not just them though, I'm gobsmacked in the way that supermarkets can label a chicken/beef/pork as british when its not, can't remember hoe exactly they get around it but I'm sure someone else on here will know :angry:
 
Originally posted by Melendez@Feb 9 2007, 03:58 PM
What IS a shame is that the backlash will hit all poultry producers, some of whom do the job right and who don't deserve to lose hard-earned money because of this unpleasant and basicaly immoral method of poultry production.

I think the exact opposite is happening. It seems to me the demand for Free Range/Organic is increasing way ahead of supply and those producers are getting premium prices for their products.
Not the point I was making, Mel - all poultry producers are being hit hard by the fact that now avian flu is here, they will be expected to have in place expensive measures to ensure their flocks don't get it - ie, kept indoors which means expensive ventilation systems, loss of free range status, increased feed bills, bedding etc etc.
 
A fair point, Songsheet, one dodgy operator costs everyone else on the double. First, through unfair competition and then through the cost of cleaning up.

I'm not normally squeamish about these things but I don't eat chicken in restaurants any more. When eating at home I buy the free range organic stuff.

Apart from the ethical considerations it tastes very much better.
 
Not wise at all, I'm going to be eating poultry more now cos the prices will drop.

Bird flu kills the old, the young and the already ill. I am going to make hay while the sun shines on poultry prices
 
I meant that I wouldn't eat chicken in a resturant if I wasn't confidant they it came from a reliable source
 
Originally posted by Venusian@Feb 9 2007, 06:54 PM
Does this mean that Matthews is labelling Hungarian turkey meat as UK-produced?
Possibly :angry: they probably get around by processing the meat in this country, thay way they can label it as british the whole thing is a con!
 
But, Songs, if the public thinks that wherever our food is sourced, it wouldn't be allowed in if it was grown/reared/produced in a fashion contrary to our own high standards, then why should they be forced into yet more anxiety about what's fit to eat? Crikey Moses, it just never stops in the UK! Dodgy eggs, polluted salmon, wrecked fish stocks, dodgy chicken, crazed cows, nutty sheep, and now tainted turkeys. Is there much else left to go? Pox in potatoes? Leprosy in leeks? Ergot in bread (again)?
 
It was Jackie Mason who, when touring here at the height of the AIDS scare, said "I like working in Britain, but it's the only country I know where the food is more dangerous than the sex".
 
According to Mr GG many Bernard Matthews products are half price in Tesco. We shall not be buying them :what:
 
Awww... that means all those poor ickle piggy-wiggies which went to market will have died in vain! And the poor gobblers, too - give SOME meaning to their lives, Griffs, and buy them for the kitties!
 
Waitrose and Sainsburys have said that sales have dropped by around 50% in the last few days.

It surprises me that the fall hasn't been greater.
 
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