Are you related to Tommy Cooper EC1? Talk about manipulating the figures to suit your cause. "The best way to measure a jockey is how many wins they get on a top rated in the RP or Timeform" you say. Who says it is, I've never heard that before, sounds a load of tripe to me.
Dick Whitford, I think, used to do a similar thing, and over a period of time was shown to be very good at spotting good jockeys before the masses latched on to them. My method was similar using RSB to see how a jockey performed when riding top rated RPR horses only. It's a way of trying to make a level playing field to judge the abilty of the trainer or jockey….without bias. The reason you have never heard of it before is that you appear to have no lateral thought whatsover and have no understanding of what makes a jockey the best of his era. It is bound to sound like tripe to you as it doesn't involve the words "I Luv Jamie”.
I'm not a statsman but if you want the stats on the jockeys championship they are:
Spencer has ridden 5 more winners than Sanders from 170 less rides, he has a 20% strike rate compared to Sanders 16% and to a pound level stake he has a loss of £35 compared to a loss of £166 for Sanders. If you had laid all Spencers mounts you would be showing a heavy loss and even being more selective like you've tried in your other slagging off Spencer thread you would already be several points down plus commission having completed your hat trick of unsuccessul lays on Friday
I've made plenty of money backing and laying Spencer all season, the fact that you are judging something over the period of one week tells me you have little in the way of sense or judgement about you.
Strike rates and LSP mean nothing without knowing the price of each horse involved, which you clearly don't know. Spencer rides more shorter priced horses % wise so is bound to have a higher % strike rate for a start…LSP means bugger all if one jockey is riding more donkeys than the other one..you really seem to struggle with the fact that riding horses with little chance of winning will give overall worse figures..it would only take Sanders to win a very small number of those outsiders to be level on LSP with Spencer…LSP is a figure that looks meaningful..but is totally meaningless.
“Statsman”, I thought you were female??? You post as “Lovely Lady” on TRF don’t you? Fancy trying to pull the old “I am a girl” routine, tut tut.
As helpful as those Massey stats are ..they aren’t very accurate…the outsiders group is not accurate enough..they will include a range of 10/1 shots to 50/1 shots..a big differnce in chance of winning there. You need to split each price range into groups...8/1-10/1...11/1-16/1...17/1-25/1...etc….before they tell you anything worthwhile.
This would also be necessary with the other end of the price scale, there is a big difference in the chance of an 8/11 favourite and a 3/1 one for instance….in simple terms that you might follow..8/11 shots win more times than 3/1 shots..so judging them as the same thing is a nonsense….i hope you can see this..it’s not really difficult is it?
Sanders is a good, competent jockey but not in the same class as Spencer who will be a very worthy champion again, hopefully.
Jockeys don't have class Dante, they differ slightly in consistency/abilty and have agents with differing levels of ability and connections.
When riding similar chance horses there is nowt between the pair of them..and both are below the figures Dettori/Fallon/Eddery/Moore for instance, are capable of producing..when riding similar chance horses.
If all this is too complicated for you….a 10 year old could follow this surely...then maybe you would be better posting on a forum somewhere that is relevant to what you know something about?
I’m pretty sure you are probably just on the wind up here though..I would hope so anyway…no one really thinks the jockey “title” means much just on the bare figures surely…well not outside the betting shop arena anyway.
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