Flemenstar

[granger]

I think Flemenstar is a wonderful horse, but those of you hoping he will be able to mix it with the best on good ground are smoking crack.

What are you basing this on as a matter of interest

 

[Bar the Bull]

He moves like a soft ground horse. That was my main memory of his win in the mist in the Grade 1 last year.

 

[granger]

He moves like a soft ground horse. That was my main memory of his win in the mist in the Grade 1 last year.

I looked at that race again tonight and I disagree. I'm not saying that he is not more effective with softer conditions but look at how he a) jumped and b) created distance between the horses behind him from the 2nd last out. He really attacked the last fence

 

[Irish Stamp]

Nickname also retired to stud. Very very harsh on Flemenstar

 

[Bar the Bull]

I looked at that race again tonight and I disagree. I'm not saying that he is not more effective with softer conditions but look at how he a) jumped and b) created distance between the horses behind him from the 2nd last out. He really attacked the last fence

Yeah. On heavy ground, though

 

[granger]

Yeah. On heavy ground, though

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[Bar the Bull]

I am talking about this race.

http://www.racingpost.com/horses/re...lts_top_tabs=re_&results_bottom_tabs=ANALYSIS

It was run in the mist.

 

[Cantoris]

Some horses need soft ground to jump effectively out of. Nickname was one and Rubi Light is another. Flemenstar does not need it.

Bog Warrior wants it just like that.