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George Best - RIP

A very sad day. One of our two greatest players...the other being Duncan Edwards...
My dad first took me to Old Trafford in november 1975 so i missed seeing Best by a couple of years or so, it`s is the only reason i regret not being a little bit older.

R.I.P George.
 
I'm too young to remember him play, but have grown up with my dads story of how he and my uncle played against him on the backstreets of Belfast when they were kids.

RIP George
 
RIP, but...

I'm afraid I don't buy the hype surrounding his ability.

I've seen them all since Puskas right through and Best was a top player but to suggest he was the best these islands have produced, let alone the best in the world, is total sh*te.

Paul Gascoigne was twice the player Best was and people will overlook Jimmy Johnstone because he was Scottish but for my money he was individually more talented and a far better team player. David Beckham is better than Best. So is Wayne Rooney.

Best is on a par with Ryan Giggs.

Sorry, folks, but that's how it is.
 
Originally posted by Maurice@Nov 25 2005, 09:37 PM


Paul Gascoigne was twice the player Best was
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OK I'll quantify that

Best had everything, was two footed, could head the ball, could tackle, could dribble a football whilst running at full speed (not as easy as it sounds), had perfect balance, vision although sometimes a bit greedy admittedly, could go past players on either side, sold more dummies than Mothercare, could nutmeg defenders ....do I have to go on.

Gascoigne doesn't come close in my book.
 
Didn't Matt Buzby say that he was the best player he ever had in any position . He out scored the strikers and he defended like an anchor . Truth is he was naturally gifted . He was asked recently what he thought of David Beckham . He said , well he can use his right foot but he can't use both feet . He can't head the ball so
 
I saw Best play twice live, and I disagree with Mo - he was extraordinary.

However - and I don't mean to be ill willed or inappropriate, but I find another outbreak of recreational grief on our islands quite apalling. Once again organised by it's cheerleader - Sky TV.
 
There is more to being a footballer than just natural talent, which Best had in spade loads. He's a bit like the French guy that Sue Barker swoons over - see, I can't even remember his name - a fantastic natural talent but did nothing for the teams he played for. One manager said of him, "He's the type that can win you a match but he won't win you a league." Best was in that mould.
 
Of course, he did win the league (twice?) and the European Cup and to compare him with Ginola (I assume he's the one) is mind bogglingly wide of the mark.
 
Yes, it was Ginola.

I remember watching Man U a lot as a kid (my brother was a big fan). Let me repeat, Best was an enormous talent but to suggest he won them the league and/or the European Cup is arrant nonsense. He was in a great team but I don't see that he was 'part' of that team. He was too self-centred for that.
 
AC - love that phrase. "Recreational grief". Are you its author, or have you half-inched it from someone? Yes, I know what you are abhorring, and I agree with you. It's all part of the fad for the public examination of the entrails of every everyday occurrence, whether it's someone who's been maimed in an accident, someone whose kid's died from an obscure disease, someone who's had their leg bitten off by a shark, etc. Or someone who was talented, rich, self-indulgent, and now dead. We're supposed to be deeply caring about the dross which washes up on the dingy shores of shows like 'Trisha', whinging about how their Mum's had it off with their last three boyfriends, and equally deeply caring about the starving of Niger (when did we start poncing around calling it 'Nee-jair' instead of 'Nye-jer', for God's sake?) in the same half hour. No wonder some kids have their perspectives all skewed. (Or even adults.) We can live vicariously and sentimentally through anyone else's life but our own, it seems.
 
Originally posted by Maurice@Nov 26 2005, 12:09 PM
There is more to being a footballer than just natural talent, which Best had in spade loads. He's a bit like the French guy that Sue Barker swoons over - see, I can't even remember his name - a fantastic natural talent but did nothing for the teams he played for. One manager said of him, "He's the type that can win you a match but he won't win you a league." Best was in that mould.
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It`s this simple with regard to talents like Best, Ginola et al

Maradona 143
Best 141

Gazza 134

Rooney 130p

Ginola 125

Le Tissier 121


Of the same mould true, but also far higher class.
 
I'd agree with your other ratings but I'd have Pele on 142. Best wasn't fit to lace Pele's boots.
 
Im too young to have seen him play, obviously i have seen the clips and head the stories both on and off the pitch.

Its always sad to see someone passed away however I didnt have much time for him. He seems to have brought the problems on himself with his drinking, the writing has been on the wall for a long while and was only a matter of time.....

I feel more sorry for Richard Burns than George Best.
 
The best player United ever had was Schmiechel (sorry can't spell it). How many games did he win for them in the 90's ? The goals came from everywhere on the pitch but the saves to keep them in the crucial games.... one in particular stands out was the game against Newcastle. When the toon were 12 points clear in January. Anyone who saw that game will know what I mean. There were dozens of games like that in which he kept out sure-fire goals with hands, feet, face, axse you name it!

Best was a rare talent and will always be on the greatest world XI which gets trotted out every-so-often. Possibly the best outfield player the world has ever seen (and i'll deck anyone who says otherwise!! LOL)

So on Saturday raise a glass to George. Put the beer into beerievement. It's what he would have wanted.

Gazza indeed pah!!! Catch yourself on big man. Even Peter Crouch is better than he was and he couldn't score on a dart board :D
 
I dont agree . I think he hated drink as much as he loved its effect . He was an alcoholic and the definition of that is beyond me but I know that he was such a good , gentle person in his heart . After he was diagnosed as needing a transplant his doctor pleaded with barmen not to serve him but there was always someone who wanted to say that they had bought him a drink .
Of course he would never refuse . I don't think drink is a good thing for some people .
 
Originally posted by The Rail Bandit@Dec 1 2005, 12:26 PM
The best player United ever had was Schmiechel (sorry can't spell it). How many games did he win for them in the 90's ? The goals came from everywhere on the pitch but the saves to keep them in the crucial games.... one in particular stands out was the game against Newcastle. When the toon were 12 points clear in January. Anyone who saw that game will know what I mean. There were dozens of games like that in which he kept out sure-fire goals with hands, feet, face, axse you name it!
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I love Schmeichel as much as the next man, but post 1990 (best United player ever is Best or Edwards by the way) our MVP so to speak was Eric the King.
 
There is a guy who has played for Real Madrid recently who makes best look like an ordinary pkayer.
 

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