Is Anyone Watching Live8 Tomorrow Or

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Unfortunately, I don't think it's for a 'good reason'. The parts of Africa at which this well-meaning beano is aimed are still riddled by corruption and there's scant chance that the benefit of more cash (already agreed), no debt repayments (already agreed), will reach the deserving members of the population than before.

What was interesting, was on the programme for the deaf this morning, two deaf Africans were discussing what to do: one, a deaf man from the Dem. Rep. of the Congo (prev. Zaire) did not favour aid being given to the governments at all, but only through an independent body which would apportion it directly to the aid agencies working in the various countries; the second, an Ethiopian woman, didn't favour ANY MORE AID at all! She preferred that the West lend its commercial expertise (albeit funding the people to do it) into guiding more of her countryfolk into learning how to set up businesses, know how to keep books, audit, and generally account for themselves. Her own mother had been assisted in this manner into setting up a now-thriving school, and she felt that the days of begging should be consigned to history.

I'm delighted to see non-political Africans saying how they think money should be spent, although it's often in the face of mortal danger - the Congolese gent petitioned for disability rights in then Zaire (and let's face it, this is an area woefully ignored because of stigma throughout Africa) and was threatened by government agents with being thrown, alive, from a helicopter if he persisted. He took asylum in Britain as the best option of continuing to expose Zairean corruption, and remain alive.
 
But Krizon, people are now talking about it again on a massive scale. Perhaps, better to say something and do little than perhaps say nothing at all. Whatever the bigger picture, and whatever the bigger agenda, I am heartened that kids in schools can now have a tiny bit of an understanding about how lucky they are to constantly have clean drinking water, to have food in their bellies, and know that they have a much better chance of survival than so many thousands of other children around the world, especially Africa. A message that must clearly be coming out today even if many are not really interested, and will have forgotton about the reasons behind Live8 by next week.
 
Well, so far so good.

Paul McCartney and U2 opened with "Sgt. Pepper" and U2 went on to perform a little set of sheer entertainment.

Coldplay have just played and were joined by Richard Ashcroft (The Verve).
 
They now have Lou and Andy on from Little Britain..... :D

Will Lou get out of his wheelchair...... ?? :blink:
 
The 'Phonics are good - they are very good live, I saw them a few years back. Kelly is looking pretty fine too, despite the sunglasses that look like he picked them up in a pound shop! :D
 
So far so good, no one has disappointed.

Had Dido down as a non event prior to the gig , but pleasantly surprised. The girl can sing.

Roll on tonight for the main menu.
 
The 'Phonics were very, very good - Local Boy In A Photograph never fails to bring a tear to my eye. It always makes me think of my brother's best friend Gareth; he died at the tender age of 19 of malaria whilst travelling in Africa.
 
I found out yesterday his girlfriend, Angeline Jolie lives on a farm not far from Slough, and that's where the gorgeous Brad has been staying recently.

(OK, the farm is a few miles from Slough, but Slough sounds a great place for such a famous actress to live don't you think!) :)
 
Black Eyed Peas now on in Phillidelphia. A great set and right after the fantastic and excellent looking Annie Lennox in Hyde Park!
 
The general consensus in this office was that Annie Lennox looked positively scary....

Green Day are putting on a good performance in Berlin.
 
I think she looked absolutely fantastic. Still very slim, her short platinum hair suits her, and her skin for her age is amazing... and she still has a fantastic voice. To me there is nothing scarey about any of that.
 
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White teeth are out Dom. I'm thinking of opening a chain of teeth yellowing shops.

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Razorlight are seriously good - I love the 'plants' they brought on stage!!

Btw, some seriously amusing banter on the BF forum about it in the chit-chat section! :lol:
 
How many times do you reckon Fearne Cotton has used the word "amazing" today ?

It's getting on my tits
 
Kathy - all of the previously-colonized African countries always had safe, clean drinking water - it wasn't one water for the whites, and one for the blacks (although it was separate drinking fountains in apartheid S.A.). My (white) friends who farmed drank borehole water with never a problem, the same as rural black Africans in their area.

The post-colonial African countries are now poorer, 40 years on, than they ever were. That is a disgrace to be laid firmly at their rulers' doorsteps. They have trousered (or rather, Swiss-banked) the money for maintaining clean and safe water supplies, for road-mending, for maintaining schools and health and for a host of other things, such as agriculture (now back to soil erosion and slash-and-burn, all of which they were taught how to change so as to grow effective crops), and to continue university programmes which would ensure the future of their countries through well-educated and forward-thinking young people. Who are now singularly refusing to change old sexual habits, and contracting HIV hand-over-fist.

You, as someone involved in a commercial enterprise, would surely realize that you couldn't go on propping up a business where you knew the boss was cooking the books, and the staff were not getting paid, would you? The G8 countries knew perfectly well about all of the rampant corruption and the unforgivable witholding of drugs for the hospitals, and new supplies for schools, etc., along with billions of pounds and dollars of squandered money, yet they did nothing to ENFORCE seeing their money spent as it was intended.

I hope Liv8 attacks the real roots of sub-Saharan Africa's troubles - calling it all 'Africa' is demeaning and insulting to the African countries which aren't in dire financial straits of their own making - first, the G8 countries apathy towards seeing their money go where it should; second, ensuring the recipient countries' governments are made fully accountable for every damn penny in future.

None of this social worthiness counts for more than a piss to windward if corrective steps aren't taken. Spouting off about 'no-one should starve in the 21st Century' is quite obviously CORRECT, but how it CAN BE STOPPED - and it can - requires the collective will of the G8 treasurers, and the bringing, literally, to book of the countries receiving aid.

However, frankly, IMO the slogan should be 'no-one should need aid in the 21st Century' and I've no doubt that if 40 YEARS OF AID hasn't worked through the current system, then something is seriously wrong with the system, and that must be changed immediately.

(Of course, I'm referring to steady, predictable hand-outs - 'charity' from the rich to the poor, like Victorian ladies visiting the poorhouses at Christmas - and not one-off special needs such as the Tsunami Fund, which really will work over a period of time.)
 
krizon - the purpose of these concerts and the marches is an attempt to influence those who can do something about it. I agree with what I think you are saying, that we should help the under-developed nations (note, nowhere near all in Africa) to help themselves. A very good start would be for the professed believers in free trade to practise what they preach and allow a level playing field where trade is concerned.

The rich countries of the world support their farmers and those of their "most favoured nations" to the tune of £154 billion a year, ten times the amount of money given in aid to Africa.

In the EU the Common Agricultral Policy costs each British household £832 a year but its abolition and the abandonment of World Trade Organisation barriers would make it far easier for farmers from the poorer countries to compete in global markets.

Also, if we - the wealthy nations - continue to delay action to stem climate change it will be the poor countries that bear the brunt of it first.

It is these and other actions that are desperately needed and that are the subject of the lobbying.
 
9.20pm and all I've seen is half of Macca and Bono doing Sgt Pepper and the odd second or two of other 'acts' as I channel hop. I'm quite happy about that - they look sh*te.

Thank God Channel 5 stuck on Ben Hur - nearly four hours of brilliant cinema.

(I had 1000 talents on the Arab greys at 4/1.)
 
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