King George VI Chase

granger said:
Fascinating stuff

And then Hitman smashes them all:)
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Definitely egg nogging it already

I'll run round the forum naked if that pig of a thing wins :lol:

Seriously he will need to run a lot better than he did at Aintree. That form looks very ordinary when GDC made Fakir D'oudairies like like a tree yesterday.

Bravesmansgame has sureley more going for him than Hitman and I can't see him winning let alone Hitman.

But u know racing I could be the one with eggnog on my face:blink: but I just can't see where you are coming from
 
As far as I can see, at the 6 day stage, no supplementary entries and 9 confirmations. The 4 not confirmed are Noble Yeats, Pic D'orhy, Protektorat and Red Happy.
 
simmo said:
I've thrown a couple of quid at Elodorado Allen in the king George at 27 on the machine. He was beaten 3.5l by bravemangame giving 3lb, so the difference in their prices is just too big.
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I'm quoting this simmo and putting it in the KG thread as I have some thoughts.

I've been studying the race this morning and I agree, he's too big. I kind of think BMG would have been more fully tuned for Wetherby in that pumpkin's plan was win the Charlie Hall, win the King George, pussy out of Cheltenham and then go to Aintree whereas Tizzard (who I don't 100% trust) may have been just using the race as a nice starting point. One concern other than he just might not be good enough is he does sometimes jump to his left. I re-watched his run behind Mister Fisher at Kempton last season and he was badly left at the first fence but not too bad after that. He actually ran really well in the Ryanair as well, he was 100% the second best horse in the race, actually trying to keep tabs on Allaho whereas the other were just trying to hit the frame. Hitman and Envoi Allen are so much shorter than him, this makes no sense. I've done him each way at 20/1 with 365.
 
If you have a quick read through Post #1 in this thread, you’ll find Eldorado Allen was put-up as the each-way selection in late November. :thumbsup:
 
Ahoy Senor apparently runs here rather than Wetherby.

Connections presumably know what they’re doing, but it seems like an odd decision to me.
 
Grasshopper said:
Ahoy Senor apparently runs here rather than Wetherby.

Connections presumably know what they’re doing, but it seems like an odd decision to me.
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That’s a surprise. Of the ones declared he’d be the one I expected not to run after his weak finishing effort in the Many Clouds


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Grasshopper said:
Ahoy Senor apparently runs here rather than Wetherby.

Connections presumably know what they’re doing, but it seems like an odd decision to me.
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His last 2 runs are easily forgiven, and from his Cheltenham and Aintree (jumped rt) form at the end of last season, and 33/1 (888bet - 3pl) looks generous to me - but what do I know?
 
reet hard said:
His last 2 runs are easily forgiven, and from his Cheltenham and Aintree (jumped rt) form at the end of last season, and 33/1 (888bet - 3pl) looks generous to me - but what do I know?
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33/1 is big,but I cant see why its 2 runs can be forgiven tbh.
 
Outsider said:
33/1 is big,but I cant see why its 2 runs can be forgiven tbh.
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Too keen,both races.
He raced keenly in his 2 closing races last season, but he made his own pace at Aintree and would have been a bigger threat to L'Homme Presse had he not been novicey at a couple.
 
With Frodon in the race, there’s next to no chance Ahoy Senor will be able to dictate the pace, and I just can’t have him as a hold-up closer over a sharp 3m like this. I reckon he’s a bit one-dimensional tactically, tbh, and he’ll need an awful lot to go his way to figure at the end - though your price obviously compensates to a degree.

I’m obviously a less forgiving type than you are. :)
 
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I will just add. Any front runner that takes on Frodon, beats him and the rest of the field will have done remarkably well. Daily, I look for front running favourites that will get taken on. Some still win, many lose though. You don't want Frodon in a race if your horse likes being on the front end. Just saying. And, worth saying, like Reet said....what do I know? what do any of us really know? Its all a guessing game with %'s ruling overall.
 
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Does Frodon need to front run?

His career best on RPRs had him tracking the leaders.

Also on RPRs, his win in this race was only the joint-eighth best of his career. His top six were all at Cheltenham.

I'm not convinced he'll be asked to lead this time.
 
Desert Orchid said:
Does Frodon need to front run?

His career best on RPRs had him tracking the leaders.

Also on RPRs, his win in this race was only the joint-eighth best of his career. His top six were all at Cheltenham.

I'm not convinced he'll be asked to lead this time.
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Prominent, led, pressed leader, close-up, made-all. These descriptions are liberally scattered through his race record, DO. It’s the way he runs, and those highest RPRs all came when making the pace. Besides, I expect the yard will want something to aim at with BMG. I can’t see him being anything other than right up the front; either on or setting the pace.
 
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