Laser Eye Surgery

Honest Tom said:
Kri, during the night the nocturnal lenses painlessly apply slight pressure to certain points of the eyes (these are the points the laser surgery would be burning away) to shape your eye. When removed you see just as if you had the lenses in but your eyes gradually ease back to their normal shape. At first you get maybe 18 straight hrs of good vision but after a while (months not years) you'll only need to wear them every second night. Apparently the ancient Chinese used to place sand bags on the eyes of myopic people overnight for the same effect. I don't think it's suitable for heavy prescriptions though.
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Thats really interesting...thanks for that Tom - certainly something to look into thats for sure.

Sister has laser surgery a few years back and she was physically sick the next day but was fine within a few days and has not had any problems since.
 
I've had loads of meds reviews, Imagine - there's nothing they can really change it to, at least not that would be effective. I'm bit of an expert on painkillers now and I'm on both anti-inflammatories and opiates!
 
Fascinating, HT - many thanks for that. Those ancient Chinese were brill, weren't they? Never heard of the treatment before, but I'll be off tomorrow to the beach with two little bags...
 
Shadow Leader said:
I've had loads of meds reviews, Imagine - there's nothing they can really change it to, at least not that would be effective. I'm bit of an expert on painkillers now and I'm on both anti-inflammatories and opiates!
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I thought you probably would have. I'm afraid I tend to go into meds review mode whenever anyone mentions medication. I really need to get out more :p
 
No worries, it was the sort of thing that comes out automatically sometimes I'm sure. Get it from a few people, especially my friend's mum who works in a pharmacy. Guaranteed first question she'll ask is 'what are you on at the moment'? :lol:
 
imagine said:
Could be something genetic and I certainly believe that pain thresholds vary from person to person.
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I am currently a very relieved woman to find that anaesthetists are now being trained to allow 40-50% extra for people with red / auburn hair. Even when the evidence was released some 20 years ago, there were still many doctors and dentists who denied it - to my cost.
 
Really? Never heard of that before, either! The things one learns from forums! I had auburn hair (it's all sorts now, depending on whether I get to the hairdresser in time to have him play with it!), and my paternal grandmother was bright red carrots. Never knew that anything had been found out about us having a lower pain threshold. I don't know if I have a high or low one - I tend to hate being fussed over and as a kid, if I fell over, I couldn't stand people rushing up to 'help'. Still can't! I get up and over it in my own time.

I've never had a baby, and I imagine that's the worst of pains (unless given an epi), although decades of permanent low back pain due to bone spurs are something I'm used to - it's only when I find I've started to walk like a crab that I get out the Solpadeine. (Although I found Anadin Extra very good t'other day, when it had really scrunched up.) I suppose it might be more intelligent to take a couple of Anadins at the start of each day, rather than let the back get steadily squinchier - doing a job with hours of standing (at the racecourses) probably doesn't improve its temper, either!
 
Like you, Kri, I tend to hate being fussed over and am best left to get over things in my own way and time. I can handle the administering of any treatment but after that's been done further attention just gets annoying.

The research was carried out in Canada about 15/20 years ago and is now being incorporated into Anaesthetists' training, thank Heaven. I found out about red hair and anaesthetics the hard way - at the dentist's. He hit a nerve that wasn't asleep and yours truly all but went through the roof, only to be told not to be silly and that it didn't hurt that much. Patronising git.
 
krizon said:
Really? Never heard of that before, either! The things one learns from forums! I had auburn hair (it's all sorts now, depending on whether I get to the hairdresser in time to have him play with it!), and my paternal grandmother was bright red carrots. Never knew that anything had been found out about us having a lower pain threshold. I don't know if I have a high or low one - I tend to hate being fussed over and as a kid, if I fell over, I couldn't stand people rushing up to 'help'. Still can't! I get up and over it in my own time.

I've never had a baby, and I imagine that's the worst of pains (unless given an epi), although decades of permanent low back pain due to bone spurs are something I'm used to - it's only when I find I've started to walk like a crab that I get out the Solpadeine. (Although I found Anadin Extra very good t'other day, when it had really scrunched up.) I suppose it might be more intelligent to take a couple of Anadins at the start of each day, rather than let the back get steadily squinchier - doing a job with hours of standing (at the racecourses) probably doesn't improve its temper, either!
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Codeine Phosphate is better for back pain and you don't get tierd and a back surpot in your seat at work.
 
You don't get tired on codeine? Yes you do Andy - it makes most people groggy!

Yes redhead, codeine, like most opiates, can be addictive if you're on it for long periods of time.
 
I don't have anything like the levels of agony Shadz's been through, or is still enduring, though. I was told to lie flat for a week with a rolled-up towel in the small of my back, on some fairly heavy painkillers, at the time the spurs were found through x-ray. I spent a day and a bit before deciding it was ridiculous, and bogged-off to enjoy the sick days off riding instead! I think it undid a lot of the spasms far better than lying down and getting stiff. (Cue smut alert... )
 
Redhead and SL are correct, codeine can be addictive and should really be for short term use only unless prescribed by a GP/hospital prescriber. Also worth noting if used for headaches for too long it actually makes them worse rather than better - I have no idea if it has the same effect on back pain! Not a big fan of Anadin myself on a long term basis either. I remember doing work experience in a pharmacy when I was in sixth form and the pharmacist told me that if aspirin was discovered today as a new drug it wouldn't actually get a licence and wouldn't be available. Sorry if that scares anyone who's on it on a regular basis, make sure you take it with food and you should be fine as long as you don't take ibuprofen or diclofenac as well.
 
Codeine can make headaches worse but more in that if taken a lot for headaches it can give a pretty much permanent headache rather than making a one off headache hurt more.

I tend to find nowadays that almost all of the headaches I suffer - even ones that aren't that bad, but are maybe constant - are migraines rather than headaches, even if they don't feel as bad as a lot of migraines. A lot of the time a headache is a migraine building up and on taking the medication I'm prescribed for migraines they go. I was told by my GP a couple of years ago that I should take a migraine tablet when I got one of the frequent headaches I was experiencing at the time; he said that if it were just a headache it would have no effect but were it a migraine it would improve as the migraine medication (triptans) act on the area of the brain that sends the signals/pain where migraines are concerned rather than killing pain.
 
Dom, have you ever tried any of this E.F.T. stuff with migraines? Google "eft migraine" and you'll find some youtube demos. A lot of hypnotists are using this now and, while I can't see any logic in it, maybe there's some kind of self-hypnosis at work.
 
I'd not even heard of it HT till you mentioned it. I've googled it and I'm not sure I could repeat "Although I have this migraine I fully accept myself" without wetting myself laughing!!!

Fortunately I don't suffer as much from migraines now as I used to; they got really bad for a while when I was in Gib. I get them less often now and since I always have triptan medication on me I can take it at the onset and head it off before it sets in. These triptans are pretty amazing and make the world of difference.
 
Shadow Leader said:
I'd not even heard of it HT till you mentioned it. I've googled it and I'm not sure I could repeat "Although I have this migraine I fully accept myself" without wetting myself laughing!!!
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Believe me, it's not as funny when a guy you're paying £50 an hour to get you off smokes is asking you to repeat it in front of him. Needless to say after the session I walked right out the place and bought a packet of fags. Must admit though, having seen the near 100% positive feedback to those youtube videos (it wasn't like anyone was looking for money), I tried it a few times with my oft sore neck (repeated "my neck is not sore") and I generally got relief. I suspect the tapping eased my tension which helped my neck. I've seen Paul McKenna use the technique since then.
 
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'Tapping' is often used in conjunction with visualisation techniques to try and help/overcome a number of issues. A good friend of Paul McKenna I know is extremely sceptical about its' effects, but it can depend on the individual and the problem they are trying to deal with.
 
For headaches, another thing you could try is Tiger Balm, or any other evaporating rub with menthol/camphor. Certainly works well for me ... when I'm at home! (It has a 'fragrance'.)
 
G-G said:
'Tapping' is often used in conjunction with visualisation techniques to try and help/overcome a number of issues. A good friend of Paul McKenna I know is extremely sceptical about its' effects, but it can depend on the individual and the problem they are trying to deal with.
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There's details of an experimment somewhere on line where they seperated people into 4 groups. They got some to tap on the supposed "correct" places, some to tap on the "wrong" places, some to tap on certain points of a doll and the last group didn't tap at all (just said the words). I think the results were that the tapping groups all said they felt some benefit but the non-tapping group didn't.

The whole thing seems ridiculous (I don't thnk the 'mantra' helps the cause) but I suppose you could say the same thing about hypnosis yet few doubt its validity. Until Dom's post I hadn't even thought about it since the week I went to the hypnotist (he did put me under and did mention the benefits of tapping while I was under) so I suppose I'd hardly be categorised as a convert but wouldn't slag off anyone giving it a go. When I first googled it the thing that struck me was the lack of "what a load of shit" posts.
 
A relative went for hypnosis to stop them smoking and it worked. Again I would think it might depend on how open the mind is to whatever it is they do/say and how determined the individual's mind.

Tapping didn't help with a friend's problem but having spoken to others in the field, the person trying to help was not thought to be the best advocate of it. You take your chance as that whoever you use may not be as good as another, the same with any profession. The friend was prepared to give it a go though as conventional medical treatment isn't working.
 
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