Naming your horse

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Fighting Fit, not the one trained by Ken and Rhona Oliver who won the Hennessy Gold cup in "79"
won on at Naas yesterday.

Surely if you buy an unamed horse you want to put your individual stamp on it

This happened to me and my then partner with a horse called Storm Runner who I named myself in 1988
after buying him from Andrew "Sammy" Stringer I also named a few others I owned but so far no one has pagiarised the names.


However there have been 2 others Storm Runners since and counting and my ex partner was none to pleased
How come Arkle is a protected name but we the common man who thought up a name are not?

Anyone agree plagiarising should be banned?
 
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No, with the rules as they are it’s hard enough to find nice names.

I reckon they’ve got it about right with how they do it at the moment, it’s 20 years or so that they release the older names for use, so for most horses nobody would really remember the previous owner of the name anyway. I do think the protected names should be a wider net - but you could argue until the cows come home where you draw that line.


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Just listening to Rishi Persad the other day, I was wondering if there's ever been a horse called Addicted To Ann King.

(Is that too many letters or would you need to do away with the spaces?)
 
trudij said:
No, with the rules as they are it’s hard enough to find nice names.

I reckon they’ve got it about right with how they do it at the moment, it’s 20 years or so that they release the older names for use, so for most horses nobody would really remember the previous owner of the name anyway. I do think the protected names should be a wider net - but you could argue until the cows come home where you draw that line.

I have to disagree that it is difficult to find and exclusive name for a horse.........
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I just found a site and there are more names protected than I thought.

Perian War you can't have, others from the 60's like Dunkirk, Flyingbolts, Major Rose, Flash Bulb, Salmon Spray, Rondetto and dozens more you can't have after 50 years.

I have to disagree about it being difficult to find a nice name.....It took me about 10 seconds to come up with one......Trudij :lol:
 
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Stallions' names are protected as such so no more Galileos (GB) registered with Weatherbys, mares names such as Kind would be protected I think for a certain amount of time after they have stopped breeding and/or died, or/and maybe if they have bred classic winners the name can't be used again. I used to know the precise rule but I can't remember for now. The likes of Red Rum/ Desert Orchid etc are also protected although not stallions obviously.
Certain names are copyright protected so Marilyn Monroe, James Dean, Agatha Christie and her characters I am pretty sure I found out some years ago, the Winnie The Pooh characters etc. Also if you want to name one after a living person you have to have their permission ( not sure if that only applies to who are deemed as famous ) , Dennis Wise said no, so they called him Wise Dennis. Anything involving swearing in any language is out obviously, and any double entendres although some sneak through ( A mare called Via Gras had a colt, they wanted to call him Ever Hard, it wasn't allowed so they called him Everard - I think that's really clever personally ).

There are loads of options out there. I almost called mine Hesamuppetlovehim. Knobhead wasn't allowed and I did ask, 'cos of mares' name was tempted to go for DontMentionTheWar but not for long. Couple of incidents when he was little and the phrase Absolute Star was used by different people about him, and as sire is Schiaparelli thought there was an astronomical reference there but then thought if he's rubbish.....
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BBB - Schiehallion Munro - owner wanted to call him just Schiehallion , it was not allowed as a Schiehallion registered in GB in 2002 - BBB born 2013, so added the Munro as owners' middle name and also refers to mountain. No one can ever remember it when they ask me what he's called!

I always half jokingly said I would name a horse, before even the possibility of having one became a reality, after my favourite footballer, who is Steve Coppell. Not sure what he would have said if I had asked him!
 
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I’ve often wondered if anyone has ever used the name I’ve chosen for the racehorse I’ll never have: Themanwhomadetime?
 
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Stallions' names are protected as such so no more Galileos (GB) registered with Weatherbys, mares names such as Kind would be protected I think for a certain amount of time after they have stopped breeding and/or died, or/and maybe if they have bred classic winners the name can't be used again. I used to know the precise rule but I can't remember for now. The likes of Red Rum/ Desert Orchid etc are also protected although not stallions obviously.
Certain names are copyright protected so Marilyn Monroe, James Dean, Agatha Christie and her characters I am pretty sure I found out some years ago, the Winnie The Pooh characters etc. Also if you want to name one after a living person you have to have their permission ( not sure if that only applies to who are deemed as famous ) , Dennis Wise said no, so they called him Wise Dennis. Anything involving swearing in any language is out obviously, and any double entendres although some sneak through ( A mare called Via Gras had a colt, they wanted to call him Ever Hard, it wasn't allowed so they called him Everard - I think that's really clever personally ).

There are loads of options out there. I almost called mine Hesamuppetlovehim. Knobhead wasn't allowed and I did ask, 'cos of mares' name was tempted to go for DontMentionTheWar but not for long. Couple of incidents when he was little and the phrase Absolute Star was used by different people about him, and as sire is Schiaparelli thought there was an astronomical reference there but then thought if he's rubbish.....
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BBB - Schiehallion Munro - owner wanted to call him just Schiehallion , it was not allowed as a Schiehallion registered in GB in 2002 - BBB born 2013, so added the Munro as owners' middle name and also refers to mountain. No one can ever remember it when they ask me what he's called!

I always half jokingly said I would name a horse, before even the possibility of having one became a reality, after my favourite footballer, who is Steve Coppell. Not sure what he would have said if I had asked him!
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"It's Eveard who coming on the outside now" would have got a few laughs:lol: A old friend from the Northeast who's still alive and kicking almost got away with a name he requested.

He had a wicked sense of humour would do things like return demands for payment to companies with "If I don't pay you God will" written on them, as delaying tactics
I can't swear to it but it might have ended up being called kamal Sidiqui a horse he owned in the 80/90's.

The name he requested to Wetherbys was Tifukwiu and they accepted it:lol:..

By memory I think it was about 4 days later the penny dropped and they contacted him and said he would have to choose another name.
 
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I always half jokingly said I would name a horse, before even the possibility of having one became a reality, after my favourite footballer, who is Steve Coppell. Not sure what he would have said if I had asked him!
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Capall (Irish for horse) could be cleverly substituted for Copell. So

Stíofán Capall would do it.
 
I always figured I would call my racehorse Frouprou.........which is a sort of shorthand for Fell, Refused, Nowhere, Unseated, Pulled-Up, Refused, Ran-Out, Unseated.
 
There’s a good horse running at the moment, Haut En Couleurs, whose name means high in colour, which can mean pretty, sparkling, etc and also truculent. An enculeur, on the other hand, is explained by my dictionary as “he who sodomises”. So, commentators, take care with the pronunciation.

Regarding Steve Capall, the name was already used about 15 years ago for a Noel Meade horse that won a few times.
 
Id call my horse Blue Charm. First horse I ever won money on, backed it when I was 7 years old in the Grand National. Ran runner up to Bobbyjo.
 
I'm a massive Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice and Fire fan and the popularity of that show has led to a few horses being named after characters - Jon Snow, Mance Rayder, Queen Daenerys. My favourite Fantasy book series though is the Malazan Book of the Fallen (nearly 20 books shared between two authors and much too complicated to be adapted for TV.) It's a series that would be great for horse names inspired by it's characters. And so when I'm a millionaire there will be horses named called:

Anomander Rake
Ben Delat
Caladan Brood
Dassem Ultor
Emperor Kellenved
Endest Silann
Felisin Paran
Hostille Rator
Kazz D'Avore
Karsa Orlong
Onos Toolan
Silchas Ruin
Tehol Beddict
Trull Sengar
Vastly Blank
 
I would either go for something clever based on the names of the sire/dam or something humorous or after a place I like (because of the name or having been there).

There's a place near the house we just vacated called Muttonhole Road. I just wonder if that would get past the censors.

I have to admit, though, I would find it hard to resist the temptation of trying to 'get one past' the censors.
 
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Friends and I spent ages going through the Fawlty Towers episodes trying to get something for Muppet ( Schiaparelli x Mrs Fawlty) - I Know Nothing we thought might raise a smile. We ran through all the characters names ( in the yard when both BBB and Muppet were born were trying to persuade me to call them Basil/Manuel, which I refused point blank. BBB then ended up being named Basil after being bought as a yearling. I had called him Rowley after a character from books I like and have to admit was gutted they changed it. I can't bring myself to call him it either when I see him. If standing at the races with the owners, I have to say Big Baby Boy or version of, if on my own I do end up shouting Rowley. ) Muppet's stable name was always going to be Brodie after Homeland character but if he had been a filly I would have called her Sybil.
I do think it's really clever when peeps use the stallion's and mares names to come up with a name using the combination of/something relating to/play on words. We spent ages trying to come up with something which wasn't too evil.
One of my mares' sisters was Eileen stable name after owners mother in law who had recently died, racing name was AccordingtoEileen - stallion was Accordion. At the races inevitable shouting of Come On Eileen which raised smiles from people near by.
 
Years ago, I named a horse Manhattan Beach but that was after having half a dozen choices rejected. The sire was Tepukei and I did consider trying First Chukka.

If I get another chance, I've always said that I'll go with the title of one of the finest albums of the sixties, Forever Changes, and then use various tracks - Alone Again Or, Andmoreagain, You Set The Scene - if available.
 
archie said:
Years ago, I named a horse Manhattan Beach but that was after having half a dozen choices rejected. The sire was Tepukei and I did consider trying First Chukka.

If I get another chance, I've always said that I'll go with the title of one of the finest albums of the sixties, Forever Changes, and then use various tracks - Alone Again Or, Andmoreagain, You Set The Scene - if available.
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Tepukei stood at Irish National Stud mid to late 1970s and was used by manager Michael Osborne to cover a selection of mares naturally in a field where he herded them .
Anyways at dawn and dusk the stallion used go into full pre mating vocalisation, neighing and calling his mares to ascertain which were in season.
Such was the show that Michael decided to record the sounds and use the recordings in the barren mares' barn as a teasing option; the mares being tethered by their necks in old fashioned horse stalls so their hind quarters were visible for tail lifting when in season.
As it was a success news spread and studs requested copies of the tape, which Michael obliged once blank cassettes with stamp addressed envelopes were sent.
UK requests came at a cost of £5 at the time to cover postage and packing.
US requests were charged $25 to cover airmail.
This cottage industry within a Semi-State Company came to a close when an inquiry for tapes came from " someplace in Amsterdam called The Blue Lagoon " according to Mr Osborne.
Bless him, he always told a great story !
 
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Eddie, I swear you could publish a book of brief racing anecdotes like this, and it would sell like hot-cakes.
 
Surely it's not that difficult to be original

In under 5 minutes I found these which are all available according to the BHA

Tripalong
Peacefull Planet
The Breeder
Forest Trees
The Accident
Police Car
The Judas
 
I think Ding Ding is the best named horse in training. By Winker Watson out of Three Bells.
 
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