Northumberland Plate 2022

Sadly the UK no longer are in the top 10 when it comes to the worlds most expensive horse races.

If it wasn't for the fact the Aussies love and respect the Queen so much I doubt they would come all the way
from Aus to compete for 580K when the likes of the Everest in their own county is worth 8.5million pounds.

Can only be a matter of time before UK racing goes even further downhill if they don't come up with
a way to inject real prize money into Group 1 races.

Even the Derby fall short of 1 million at £909,628. Building workers play pitch-and-toss for that in Australia:lol:
 
What are tin-pot races worth in Aussie, tan? Can’t think they’d race for the peanuts they have to here.
 
It's a big country and has many small meetings in the sticks I know zero about but in TOWN as they say a run of the mill prize

Today, which is usually the weakest day for meeting in the week, at Sportsbet-Pakenham 75 km east of Melbourne on the all weather/Synthetic the winner of every race got the same £7,757.08
 
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John Randall does the same in the RP today - What Trueshan did was nothing special using handicap performances from the 19th century as justification.

Roman Warrior did get a mention, but Levmoss in 1969 was the pinnacle for stayers.
 
HawkWing said:
John Randall does the same in the RP today - What Trueshan did was nothing special using handicap performances from the 19th century as justification.

Roman Warrior did get a mention, but Levmoss in 1969 was the pinnacle for stayers.
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And John Ingles SL/Timeform does the reverse https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/trueshan-and-other-great-weight-carriers-on-the-flat/201775.

Timeform’s digital base – which remains fully functioning despite Trueshan’s performance – goes back to 1994 and shows that he has defied much the highest BHA/Turf Club rating in a Flat handicap in that time. Out of the many thousands of horses that have run in handicaps on the Flat in Britain and Ireland in that period, only 26 had previously won from marks of 110 or higher.
 
I have been given a winning bet at 5/1 on Trueshan last Saturday just now for my birthday.

It's the day that just keeps on giving...
 
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Means abolutely fcuk all......... Baaeed won at 1/6 the other day ..beating a 118 rated horse under 2 lengths

The handicapper not wanting to admit he is NOT the best horse in the world......Nature Strip is,, so he humps him up to 128??

His excuse was Order Of Australia 118 who is 3 from 16 and downright moderate finished 4 length behind Real World who he used that excuse to put him up to 123.

In my book baadeed ran to about a 123 that day.capable of more probably but the best in the world........JOKE!!! someone needs to tell him that there's another world outside of Suffolk
 
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And Kevin Blake with his tuppenceworth:

Kevin Blake | At The Races

I've now done my ratings for the race and am obviously coming up with a high figure for Trueshan.

However, going forward, I would only use that figure in a handicap.

I've no idea what Trueshan's physical stature is but he's obviously up to carrying big weights and about a third of the weight he carried the other day would have been 'dead' weight in the form of lead plates in the saddle.

We're back to Roman Warrior territory: huge horse that weight doesn't really stop but heretofore vulnerable against the very best at level weights? Would those capable of beating him at levels in a G1 have been able to carry that weight against Saturday's handicap rivals? I don't know but I wouldn't take it as given.

Take Trueshan out of the equation and Saturday's race went very much to form and I'm rating it positively but, as I say, I won't be carrying the Trueshan rating forward into Group races.

That said, it is entirely possible Trueshan is simply a much improved beast this season and now capable of dishing out hidings to G1 opponents.

I look forward to seeing him give it a go.
 
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Marb said:
Will Trueshan run off top weight?

I could try and do a horse by horse breakdown or write up but that would turn into a 5000 word essay so I'll cut to the chase.

For what it's worth I reckon Soapy Stevens can run a big race.

He has been really solid this season, not been out the first three the last four runs. He seemed to improve a fair bit for the step up to two miles at Chester the last day.

He could run with a weight in the mid-to-high eight stones and weight does matter in a ultra competative handicap over these long distances.

He is number 38 in the list so I want to see how many ahead of him come out tomorrow. Some bookies including the sponsors William Hill only go 14/1 while one or two others are quoting 25s.

There is no other race I want the winner of more than the pitmans derby.

Grandad Marb was a pitman miner!
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Compensated nicely today.

He's a proper good horse now what next for Soapy Stevens...
 
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I was thinking more so flat targets this season. I like the way he battled on right to the line today. A good horse in the making.
 
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