Northumberland Plate 2022

I'm thinking of sticking with Mark Johnston but with his other runner Tribal Art. Certainly out ran odds of 40/1 when seventh in the Ascot stakes recently. Maybe he has hit a bit of good form at just the right time. A good record on all weather surfaces to boot!
 
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Marb said:
I'm thinking of sticking with Mark Johnston but with his other runner Tribal Art. Certainly out ran odds of 40/1 when seventh in the Ascot stakes recently. Maybe he has hit a bit of good form at just the right time. A good record on all weather surfaces to boot!
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I couldn't make it up.
 
Bloody hell ( am I allowed to say that!). But it’s what I’ve been saying for the past few minutes. I’m still in shock…..wow…..
 
What an incredible performance. I didnt think that was possible.i think that's the first time I've cheered for a horse I hadnt backed.
 
Outsider said:
What an incredible performance. I didnt think that was possible.i think that's the first time I've cheered for a horse I hadnt backed.
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Marvellous, I rode like fury and edged the armchair to lead the sofa by a short arm at the line.
 
From a handicapping perspective, that goes down as one of the all-time great performances.

The implication is that the Ascot field wouldn't have got a sniff of his erse.

I need to watch it again. I'm still in shock.
 
I've been a racing fan for 40years and I can't think of anything that comes close to that as a handicapping performance on the flat.
My take on it is that he is a big strong horse with the ability to concede significant amounts of weight to inferior opposition.Maybe he should have a go at the million euro Irish Caesarewitch.
 
All time great performances?:blink: Yeah that's why he went off at 3/1 fav and the pros got stuck right in.

He was backed off the boards because he was racing against trees, that, if they ran in a Gold Cup would be beaten by over a furlong.

If at their best Kyprios or Strad would have won the race maybe even easier.

What you guys fail to understand is it a lot easier giving slow horses tons of weight than beating good horses in your own class.

You could have given most of those horses a stone less yesterday and they still would not have gone any faster
 
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LUKE said:
I've been a racing fan for 40years and I can't think of anything that comes close to that as a handicapping performance on the flat.
My take on it is that he is a big strong horse with the ability to concede significant amounts of weight to inferior opposition.Maybe he should have a go at the million euro Irish Caesarewitch.
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Bold Gait won the same race carrying 9st10lbs the second, 3rd and 4th were getting 28lbs to 31 lbs.

John Cherry won the Cesarewitch in a canter if I remember right with 10 stone on his back.

Sea Pigeon won the Ebor with 10 stone

There have been dozens of weight carrying performances on the flat but some won so easily they were quickly forgotten
 
Tanlic said:
All time great performances?:blink: Yeah that's why he went off at 3/1 fav and the pros got stuck right in.

He was backed off the boards because he was racing against trees, that, if they ran in a Gold Cup would be beaten by over a furlong.

If at their best Kyprios or Strad would have won the race maybe even easier.

What you guys fail to understand is it a lot easier giving slow horses tons of weight than beating good horses in your own class.

You could have given most of those horses a stone less yesterday and they still would not have gone any faster
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Is that why you advised us all to put the mortgage on him then? ( oh, hang on a minute….)
 
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Tanlic said:
Bold Gait won the same race carrying 9st10lbs the second, 3rd and 4th were getting 28lbs to 31 lbs.

John Cherry won the Cesarewitch in a canter if I remember right with 10 stone on his back.

Sea Pigeon won the Ebor with 10 stone

There have been dozens of weight carrying performances on the flat but some won so easily they were quickly forgotten
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Tell me the name of the last horse to carry 10st 8lbs to victory in a big flat handicap.
 
LUKE said:
Tell me the name of the last horse to carry 10st 8lbs to victory in a big flat handicap.
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Why do you think he was alloted 10st 8lbs? Could it be he was differnt class to a bunch of moderate animals.

There are horses who ran that are so slow the finished so far behind weight couldn't bring them together.

If for example Desert Crown 123 was pitched against yesterdays winner Bookmark 93 and you put Desert Crown on 10st8lbs and Bookmark on 8st 6lbs
which do you think would win...........IMO Desert Crown by half the track.

The point is we don't often see top class animals running in hamdicaps because the prize money is not good enough these days.

Arkle ran in many handicaps but back then even the King George was a handicap.

So when it does happen and the high class animal wins like a high class animal should it does not surprise me one bit.
 
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