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Noted in Running - Jumps 22/23

Just watched the replay,and Iceo was never at the races,imo.Far from a terrible ride, the horse was much more tractable than previously, and showed he may be something to go to war with.
PN's no mug either, so he won't run unless he's happy but, while he may be a future chaser. he has no entries in that sphere,thus far.
Have taken the 16/1 (4pl), and may have cause to thank Viking,come the day.
 
I’ve also taken the 16/1. 11 years since connections won the Betfair with Zarkandar and maybe this one’s being lined up. We’ve heard PFN say many times after a big race win they’ve had this in mind for ages but optimism tempered by stable your comments (thanks chaumi)


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Actually Reet's comment above ( and yours, Viking) got me thinking.

So looking at Pic D'Orhy's profile (and obvious future intentions...and we now know how that's turning out) before winning the 2020 Betfair...

Pic was running in exclusively graded races beforehand. Similar for Iceo before taking in that Class 2 off a 300 day+ break...where we know he ran half a dozen lengths + further than those he finished upsides.

I'd say that suggests the Betfair could well be a carefully planned plot for Iceo, with PN planning to take the similar Pic chasing path after picking up the cash for this..

Most of PN's other entries look too inexperienced (though if any line up, that may be a signal...and the fact they're entered suggests they'll be worth noting for future races - Lally, Time, Toothless, Rubaud). Hacker has to be a worry, though would appear to need good ground. Unlikely to get it.

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But...

If we think Iceo has his name on the trophy, then surely Chris Gordon's Aucanrisque must have a chance. Will possibly have been similarly laid out, and Chris Gordon saddled Remiluc to be 3rd beaten less than a length in 2020. He'll know how to prepare. Highway one looks just short of the ability to win, but might run well.

A worry that Aucanrisque has been chasing and never contended with a big field other than a Cheltenham bumper...whereas we know that Iceo (if he wants to) can sit out the back and come round the outside of the field if necessary without any fears other than some may have got too far away.

If it was really an intention to lose or not to win too far the last day, then he'll come up the short route and win in a canter! ** There's a good chance that deep ground or at least very soft will be necessary, going by PN's comment after the Dovecote "staying on strongly from the back of the last. That run told me he wants a trip"**
 
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It'll be fun on the day, weather permitting, I have half a plan to be at Newbury. I'll send pre-race paddock and post-race winners enclosure photos :-)
 
Henschke never jumped a fence but still won.

Only his second chase he'll learn from that and with improved jumping can run up a sequence.
 
simmo said:
You have all persuaded me to join the forum gamble on Iceo - 25/1 win only on the machine.
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Apologies to all who got involved with Iceo. Taken out at the 5 day stage but would have had no chance on the forecast g/f


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Tanlic said:
Keep an eye on Henry De Bromhead's Queen Jane. She just had her 2nd run after a 200 day lay off, Travelled well and looked likely to be involved in the finish until she looked to have blew up turning for home in the heavy ground.
That race will have brought her on a ton and shouldn't be missed next time out.
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Well if any of you trusted my judgement you would have mentioned she was running today:whistle: ... I had a right touch and backed her at 15 14 12 10 9 8 7 and 6 on betfair plus 100 quid at 12/1 with 3 different bookies..might just stick the lot on Constitution Hill nex week and buy my self another few grand:p
 
Tanlic said:
Well if any of you trusted my judgement you would have mentioned she was running today:whistle: ... I had a right touch and backed her at 15 14 12 10 9 8 7 and 6 on betfair plus 100 quid at 12/1 with 3 different bookies..might just stick the lot on Constitution Hill nex week and buy my self another few grand:p
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Well done Tan.you should have let us know.it was your horse.
 
MERITORIOUS ex Gosden horse. 105P today 3rd 100/1 I thought this was not trying and was hoping for 5th or 6th but it got going and ended up finishing 3rd.claimer ridden today.
 
RP analyst appears to agree with you.
Towards rear early, towards rear of midfield when not fluent 3 out, headway when nudged along after 2 out, keeping on when tenderly handled approaching last, went modest third towards finish, never near to challenge (op 66/1)
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Only backed one today MAGGIE WALSH 400P.

Held up ,well it was detached most of the race and then moved up well and was never put into the race.in the end it finished about 7th.
I dont know how they get away with it.
 
Don't know why Barjon restricted this to jumps as we have allweather racing all the year round so don't be rsttling my cage when I mention a flat horse,.

Philippart De Foy who trains in Newmarket has found himself one very special Filly in Lightship. who really impressed me last night.


Only rated 72 before absolutely hacking up at Kempton she's miles ahead of the handicapper.

Given time between races I reckon she'll run up a squence of 5 on the trot she is that good.
 
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Only backed one today MAGGIE WALSH 400P.

Held up ,well it was detached most of the race and then moved up well and was never put into the race.in the end it finished about 7th.
I dont know how they get away with it.
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The jockey who rode this is coming over to ride CAP DU NORD saturday.
 
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Only backed one today MAGGIE WALSH 400P.

Held up ,well it was detached most of the race and then moved up well and was never put into the race.in the end it finished about 7th.
I dont know how they get away with it.
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Runs tomorrow 345L 14/1
 
viking said:
Benson was having his first run for Sandy Thomson today (Carlisle 2.10) and ran on well to get within a length of a progressive looking type giving 9lb + the 3lb claim after looking like he got stuck in the mud 3 or 4 out

He can go one better soon assyuming the handicapper doesn’t hit him too much


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Did I back him today. Did I f*** [emoji3062]


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Fifth in the Supreme last year JPR One was a class above the opposition at Taunton and won very easily. He was due to go novice chasing this season, but various problems have kept him off the track until now. It looks as though he’ll stick to hurdles now until next season.

"It's nice to have him back. He was ready to run in the autumn and then he pulled a muscle and had a couple of slight kissing spines. We've just had to sit tight. We decided we would stay hurdling, give him a couple of runs now and then go novice chasing next season." Tizzard.
 
Really impressive win by The Carpenter just now at Newbury 1:30. Easy as you like and never off the bridle.
 
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Fifth in the Supreme last year JPR One was a class above the opposition at Taunton and won very easily. He was due to go novice chasing this season, but various problems have kept him off the track until now. It looks as though he’ll stick to hurdles now until next season.

"It's nice to have him back. He was ready to run in the autumn and then he pulled a muscle and had a couple of slight kissing spines. We've just had to sit tight. We decided we would stay hurdling, give him a couple of runs now and then go novice chasing next season." Tizzard.
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One my favs last season i was angry at myself when I missed him ...lovely horse and much better than some might think
 
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Just to make you feel even better, tan, he was 5/2 in some places (9/4 sp). Couldn’t believe it.
 

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