Royal Ascot - Wednesday

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Al Kazeem for me - think The Fugue will need the run but AOB may wave his magic wand over Camelot - and he will need to .

Like Zurigha a lot in the last - she may have top weight but was fourth in the Pouliches and goes well on Polytrack so the track should suit her too .
 
I don't think Ascot will suit Al Kazeem. Hoping Camelot touches 3/1.

Backing Prince of Johanne in the Hunt Cup. Draw worries me a bit now but he's off the same mark as last year.
 
100% behind Al Kazzeem. For one I think we have still to see the best of him and secondly Camelot's a mule for want of a better word

As for the rest of the card it's good day to bury your head in the sand unless you have money to burn.
 
No luck for me today. Not to worry, four days to go...

2.30 I don't like this race. I was thinking about Garswood but if I'm right about there being a fast strip stands' side he won't win. Instead I've taken The Brothers War.

3.05 Another unsatisfactory event. Dancewiththedevil has G1 form in South Africa so she's worth a stab.

3.45 A p1ss-poor renewal. Maxios and Saint Baudolino tentative selections.

4.25 I reeeeeeaaaaallllllllllllly fancied Dance And Dance but didn't realise it was only a reserve. Instead, I've gone in reasonably heavily on Two For Two but have back-ups in Directorship and Spa's Dancer.

5.00 I thought the American filly might be too fast - ran equivalent to a sub-58s 5f - but the draw puts me off. Instead I've taken Bye Bye Birdie at a big price.

5.30 I haven't looked at this. I might check out the likes of Annecdote during the course of tomorrow but my gut says leave the race alone.
 
Have a sneaky fancy for Ian's Dream in the Jersey, would love to see Fallon ride a nice winner for old times sake. Been beaten at 1/8 and 2/7 in 5 & 6 runner fields but before that came 3rd in Norfolk at this meeting behind Reckless Abandon. Still they persist by sending him here, and either the owner likes to have a runner at Royal Ascot or the horse has more ability than it has shown thus far! The form shows that he runs well on the big occasion and he's the type to run well in a big event. Worth a pop at a huge price.
 
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Euronymous said:
I don't think Ascot will suit Al Kazeem. Hoping Camelot touches 3/1.

Backing Prince of Johanne in the Hunt Cup. Draw worries me a bit now but he's off the same mark as last year.
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Ascot is a stiff right handed track which didn't stop AK winning at Sandown or Curragh...i think he is fast improving and looks a knocking bet...if i was on a roll i'd dib in decent ...but confidence low at the moment so will just be an interest ..think it will win
 
Gale forcé one solid, 5/1 ok for me

Difficult to split Dank and Chigun


St Baudolino best bet of the day , took 12/1 Ew


Good card
 
I've had a decent bet on Baytowns Kestrel at 33/1 for the Queen Mary and and e/w double with Two For Two at 20/1 in the 4.35.
 
SlimChance said:
'Experts' getting carried away with Camelot's first run. How many times have we seen APOB school a horse FTO in Ireland?
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AOB may well have had Ascot on his mind but as I said in another thread I have sever doubts that he sent Camelot to The Tattersall half baked.

He had already ran his first race when he went there and he had won so he was obviously pretty straight when running for the second time this season.

After Epsom Camelot was almost found out by Born to Sea who proved to be pretty ordinary. He was then hammered by Encke in the St Leger and was well beaten in the Arc when ridden by Frankie, Joseph taking the ride on SNA.

I'd have thought AOB would have been desperate to win the Tattersall and get back to winning a Group 1 race with him.

I can see no logical reason to believe he can reverse for with AK who like Camelot won a Group 3 first time out before kicking him into touch in the Tattersall.

If the POW is a more prestigious race than the Tattersall when it comes to stud value the you can bet if AOB was aware of that when training his charge the Roger Charlton was equally aware of it.

It's only my opinion but if anyone is backing Camelot then they are surely doing so in the hope AOB has borrowed Harry Potter's magic wand
 
Tanlic said:
AOB may well have had Ascot on his mind but as I said in another thread I have sever doubts that he sent Camelot to The Tattersall half baked.

He had already ran his first race when he went there and he had won so he was obviously pretty straight when running for the second time this season.

After Epsom Camelot was almost found out by Born to Sea who proved to be pretty ordinary. He was then hammered by Encke in the St Leger and was well beaten in the Arc when ridden by Frankie, Joseph taking the ride on SNA.

I'd have thought AOB would have been desperate to win the Tattersall and get back to winning a Group 1 race with him.

I can see no logical reason to believe he can reverse for with AK who like Camelot won a Group 3 first time out before kicking him into touch in the Tattersall.

If the POW is a more prestigious race than the Tattersall when it comes to stud value the you can bet if AOB was aware of that when training his charge the Roger Charlton was equally aware of it.

It's only my opinion but if anyone is backing Camelot then they are surely doing so in the hope AOB has borrowed Harry Potter's magic wand
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Fair points. I'm not backing Camot but I believe the market will send him off favourite. Suinybay may well have identified the best way to play the race. As a bookmaker I'd be looking to lay AK now and Camelot at a shorter price near the off.

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i agree the PoW looks a poor renewal and to that end i've backed camelot at 15/8 without the favourite. decent enough price for me.
 
SlimChance said:
'Experts' getting carried away with Camelot's first run. How many times have we seen APOB school a horse FTO in Ireland?
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Aye, and throughout the season!
The assumption that - because it was a gp1 race - every horse was trying for its life is plainly erroneous, and AOB has demonstrated many, many times previously that he's quite prepared to use them as prep-races for targets later in the season. He's saying that the POW was always Camelot's main aim for the first half of the year, and it makes perfect sense that's how it should be.
One thing is certain; it's a huge prize with a decent field, and won't be run at the mickey-mouse pace of the TGC. For mine, Al Kazeem is overrated on the strength of that run, and it wouldn't surprise to see him out of the places.
 
If Duntle cannot beat Chigun and Dank senseless then I give up. Would be absolutely buried into her but confidence at an all time low after a few sickener a lately. 11/4 and drifting, she could go off as big as 7/2
 
reet hard said:
Aye, and throughout the season!
The assumption that - because it was a gp1 race - every horse was trying for its life is plainly erroneous, and AOB has demonstrated many, many times previously that he's quite prepared to use them as prep-races for targets later in the season. He's saying that the POW was always Camelot's main aim for the first half of the year, and it makes perfect sense that's how it should be.
One thing is certain; it's a huge prize with a decent field, and won't be run at the mickey-mouse pace of the TGC. For mine, Al Kazeem is overrated on the strength of that run, and it wouldn't surprise to see him out of the places.
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You're more of a wordsmith than I'll ever be.
 
edgt said:
Good to see you back Barry.
You were very quiet since the tipping comp.
Hope Duntle wins for you.
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Thanks Eddie, busy at work and back playing golf and family life, you know the story yourself. Heard we had a new Troll so came back to check it out. How are you doing?
 
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