BrianH
At the Start
What? On here, Colin?
Smoking Bans
- Thread starter Euronymous
- Start date
I think everyone should go back and look at the original purpose of this thread - it was whether we agreed that smoking should be banned in PUBLIC PLACES, not in people's homes. Euro also coloured his own text by saying that articles about the problems caused by passive smoking were 'media bullshit', so we know his opinion on the issue. The topic isn't about whether people should smoke or not.
I have the same feeling towards smoking as I do towards drinking and drug-use (or any addiction for that matter): if you're an informed adult, do what you want to do, but don't expect everyone to tolerate you fumigating them, puking on them, picking a fight, or trashing their house when you're high as a kite.
I have the same feeling towards smoking as I do towards drinking and drug-use (or any addiction for that matter): if you're an informed adult, do what you want to do, but don't expect everyone to tolerate you fumigating them, puking on them, picking a fight, or trashing their house when you're high as a kite.
simmo
Senior Jockey
Oh for God's sake, I think this has gone quite far enough. Surely no one in their right mind can have any problem with being puked on, can they?
Euronymous
Senior Jockey
I'm sorry Euronymous but that argument doesn't wash in the slightest. How many times have you seen someone backing a car into a small room so that the exhaust fills the place with fumes?? You're clutching at straws & you know it. Cigarette fumes kill; they are deadly whether directly or passively inhaled & that is a scientific fact. Nevermind that they also make people stink; it is a disgusting, pikey offensive odour. [/b][/quote]
That is bullshit. Wtf are you on about people`s living rooms for.....the debate was around smoking in public places. The bottom line is the toxins emitted from cars are just as halmful. But the ONLY difference is car drivers are in the majority and therefore cannot be prejudiced against...it`s always been that way - always attack the minority. And as ever most people being sheep like and believing everything they read buy into it.
I notice a thread in here now about favourite beers.....drinking is far more anti-social but i see no talk of a ban on public drinking is being debated.
No, Euronymous, drinking is not more anti-social - that's a specious argument. Drinking to excess, however, is and so's being drunk but normal people (or abnormal people come to that.. B) ) having a few drinks in public or private can in no way be described as being worse than having to inhale smoke in public areas where there's no way of escaping it.
What anyone does in the privacy of their own homes is, however, their business!
Euronymous
Senior Jockey
In theory your right of course. But Britain is binge-drinking utopia, if your young and dont drink to excess your seen as weird these days. Increasingly this country is just becoming a nation of pissed up, braindead, sheeplike morons. But that`s ok, you can be like that......as long as you dont smoke.
BrianH
At the Start
Tabloidish exaggeration - the modern version of poetic licence?
Euronymous
Senior Jockey
Tabloidish exaggeration - the modern version of poetic licence? [/b][/quote]
Given that i work in a place where i`m exposed to large amounts of people, i dont think it`s an exaggaration at all....certainly not if you live in the north of the country.
Euronymous
Senior Jockey
A minority, certainly amongst the men anyway.
Euronymous
Senior Jockey
I think whether they smoke or not is irrelevent really. It`s not the tobacco that leads to the sort of behavior they excibit.
BrianH
At the Start
I see - so if it's the experience of Euronymous, it must be the experience of everyone.
Do you have any American blood in you?
Simmo, love the response! :lol: But could Auntie K, who's very old and frail, and gets weepy really easily, ask very politely if you can't find a teensy, weensier nicer avatar than some skaggin' bastad smashing a seal's head in?
Merlin the Magician
At the Start
this will cure a few out there!!! A packet of cigarettes will cost more than £8.50 by 2025, while a pint of beer will be over £4, new research claims.
But the price of bread will have increased by only 52% to 99p, while a pint of milk will cost 48p, according to credit card Mint.
At the same time the average price of a house will double over the coming 20 years to be worth around £335,674.
The report carried out for Mint predicts that an increase in the number of single households as a result of people marrying later and the high divorce rate continuing, will lead to a boom in flat-pack housing.
But vices such as smoking and drinking beer will be out, replaced by greater spending on health therapies, and fair trade and organic food.
A higher rise in people's incomes relative to the cost of food and utility bills will also leave consumers with more disposable income, leading to greater spending on cultural pursuits such as visiting art galleries and National Trust properties.
However, minor cosmetic procedures such as liposuction and botox will be a thing of the past, with people instead more likely to pay for plastic surgery.
The report was based on research by the Future Foundation as well as ONS statistics.
Euronymous
Senior Jockey
I see - so if it's the experience of Euronymous, it must be the experience of everyone.
Do you have any American blood in you? [/b][/quote]
I dont doubt that near your nice mansion in the home counties you dont really have to deal with Bronx type conditions when you nip out for a pint of milk. But go to any large town in the north of England and it`s wall to wall dickheads everywhere.
BrianH
At the Start
Not my experience "everywhere" in Accrington; Altrincham; Ashton-Under-Lyne; Barnsley; Barrow-in Furness; Beverley; Birkenhead; Blackburn; Blackpool; Bolton; Bradford; Burnley; Bury; Carlisle; Chester; Chorley; Colne; Crewe; Darlington; Dewsbury; Doncaster; Droylsden; Ellesmere Port; Failsworth; Gateshead; Gosforth; Grimsby; Halifax; hartlepool; Harrogate; Huddersfield; Hull; Keighley; Lancaster; Leeds; Leigh; Liverpool; Macclesfield; Middlesbrough; Morecambe; Manchester; Middleton; Newcastle; North Shields; Oldham; Preston; Rochdale; Rotherham; St Helens; Salford; Scarborough; Scunthorpe; Sheffield; South Shields; Southport; Stockport; Stockton; Stretford; Sunderland;Wakefield; Warrington; Widnes; Wigan; York most of which, though of course not all, I'd suggest I am more familiar with than you.
Of course there are problems, though claiming, as you appear to do, that the whole country is rife with them is nonsense and possibly dangerous nonsense.
And in case you think that the problems that do exist are new, then you should have encountered the South London council estate on which I grew up.
Euronymous
Senior Jockey
Nice list. But Accy and Burnley, come off it how many minutes did you spend in those toilets? It`s like Beirut in some of those towns.
EDIT : I think my misanthropy is better suited to other forums. I`ll try and stick to the racing in future.
EDIT : I think my misanthropy is better suited to other forums. I`ll try and stick to the racing in future.
BrianH
At the Start
I have spent considerable time in all the places I listed over a number of years. Judging from your comments on this country I seem to have a more global view of it, having manged to notice quite a lot of good as well as bad.
Latefortheraces
At the Start
I don't smoke !
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Ardross
Guest
I can't wait to get back up north after most visits back down south. If you want wall to wall dickheads go to Essex and Kent! I know I hail from Essex