Supercasino Revealed

Labour party plumbs new depths in Regional Policy nepotism. A truly disgraceful decision, that flies in the face of regeneration best practice models, IMD impact data and a more derserving case in the same region.
 
Originally posted by Warbler@Jan 30 2007, 12:00 PM
Labour party plumbs new depths in Regional Policy nepotism. A truly disgraceful decision, that flies in the face of regeneration best practice models, IMD impact data and a more derserving case in the same region.
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Heaven forbid that I would be seen to be defending Labour, but wasn't the panel who chose the casino non-political and don't you think they might know more than you about the relative regeneration merits of each candidate?
 
Originally posted by Irish Stamp@Jan 30 2007, 11:21 AM
Why not Blackpool, we could have a whole new line of "spin me quick" roulette hats :(
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Correct, Blackpool's bid was excellent by far the best imo.

Although i live near there so im bias and utterly disapointed.
 
Originally posted by Homer J@Jan 30 2007, 12:17 PM
Wasn't the panel who chose the casino non-political and don't you think they might know more than you about the relative regeneration merits of each candidate?
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Homer, you are correct that Professor Crow's Indepent Advisory Panel was totally non-political. Crow said that the finalists had not been graded or listed, but Manchester simply chosen as the winner on three criteria - social impact, regeneration and the willingness to license.

He categorically denied there had been any lobbying from John Prescott's office.
 
Leaving aside the question of whether anywhere at all should have been given the "supercasino", I'd have thought that Blackpool would have been the most deserving, and as a "destination resort", the criticism about casual "passers-by" being lured in to lose their life savings would carry less weight.

I bet Prescott is gutted.
 
Was 'regeneration' truly a criterion? :brows: Or wouldn't the govt. just look at the relative RESIDENT populations of Blackpool and Manchester and their average salaries, Council Tax payments, etc., plus Manchester's relatively easy access from the Stoke-on-Trent and Derbyshire conurbations (which visit there on a Saturday night anyway)? If you have relatively wealthy residents and regular visitors all year-round with healthy disposable incomes, surely you're thinking more about the £50 notes in their pockets and the luvverly revenue from what are already higher-level spenders?
 
Originally posted by krizon@Jan 30 2007, 06:26 PM
Was 'regeneration' truly a criterion? :brows: Or wouldn't the govt. just look at the relative RESIDENT populations of Blackpool and Manchester and their average salaries, Council Tax payments, etc., plus Manchester's relatively easy access from the Stoke-on-Trent and Derbyshire conurbations (which visit there on a Saturday night anyway)? If you have relatively wealthy residents and regular visitors all year-round with healthy disposable incomes, surely you're thinking more about the £50 notes in their pockets and the luvverly revenue from what are already higher-level spenders?
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Ive got a copy of Manchester City Councils 24 page proposal to license the regional casino at Sportcity in front of me now Kri and while 'regeneration' is a major part of it, all your other points are in there too.

Cant find 'Drive-By Shootings' in there anywhere though ;)
 
It's a gift, this ESP, Caj! :D

Dims - REALLY? :o I'm saddened to hear it called that. I lived in Torquay from 1967-72 (well, one year out in Libya, but Mum was there throughout) and I liked it. Why is it a dump?
 
I was there fro a bit over the summer and really liked it to. Much better than Paignton just down the coast.
 
Torquay has changed dramatically over the past 20 years or so. The constant need for updating and change to bring in more tourists has really taken it toll. The latest craze for another casino will probably result in one of the prime Victorian buildings, The Pavillion being used.
The sea front, near to the Marina has concrete cancer, which will mean a whole new revamp of that area. The famous picture postacrd scene will be gone forever.
The town is like any other now, full of take aways, yank style pubs and rubbish. The harbour is filthy and stinks. The greenbelt areas on the outskirts are being taken over by rabbit hutch type houses. Want me to go on...................?
 
.... no, no, that's enough! :( Same old story with pretty little places - the councils grant all these bland, plastic franchises their licenses and everywhere gets turned into a replica of everywhere else. Gradually, bit by bit, places lose their individual character and we end up with an American-style 'Anywhere' main street full of the same signs and fronts.

I suppose I don't dare ask about St Ives (the Cornish one) in the same breath?
 
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Clive James did an interview recently about going back from London to his home town of Sydney in 2000 for the Olympic Games: "The contrast could hardly have been greater. Australia had the Games, you had the Millennium Dome."
 
Manchester is just about my least favourite city in the UK. Nothing against the Mancs but its just a completely overrated souless place

i wonder how many people would actually go out of their way to spend time in the drizzly grey dump just to use some slot machines?
 
Originally posted by clivex@Jan 31 2007, 11:36 AM
i wonder how many people would actually go out of their way to spend time in the drizzly grey dump just to use some slot machines?
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Cease wondering. The answer is "lots".
 
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