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The 2025 Racing League

It's a lousy concept, I wouldn't attend if you paid me, and I randomly clicked on a Matt Chapman interview the other day and, for me, he just goes from bad to worse (I literally couldn't follow the game any more if I had to listen to all that).

BUT - and despite the integrity concerns I've alluded to - there is the occasional bet to be had.

It's a shame - it's well-funded evening midweek racing at a time when mid- to lower-tier racing is getting neglected financially more than ever - the format is so excruciatingly awful.
 
And if anyone's got any winners it'd be much appreciated as it falls on my daughters birthday so I've been hit hard, times like this we have to pull together...well not literally pull together ...but a team effort on the form books at least.
 
I was hoping to start getting back on track with searching for a big payday day and putting a multiple together for this thus far I've come up with one a couple of the others I was looking at are just not as big at the odds as I'd hoped.

5.30 Windsor Outlandish generally 12/1 4 places available with some bookies at that price.

There's enough in his runs at Nottingham, Yarmouth and his lto performance at Wolves to suggest this step up in trip will bring about improvement. His last performance at Wolves was in the racing league and he's finished a staying on 5th. The manor in which he achieved it caught my eye seemed to hate the tight bend there pumped along early forced widest of all and stayed on past horses who'd already passed him.

As I get older (and lazier) I like to simplify things and this is how I view it. How much does he need to improve from last time to win ? A fair bit, to place, not much. The fact he's run decently at a track that didn't suit him and he's got pushed widest of all and still finished a never nearer 5th. It's certainly looks like he'll benefit from the step up in trip to my eye. They've applied first time headgear for this for which as much as I'm not swayed whether thats a positive or a negative with horses as to whether it works or not. I always view it as at least the intentions when applying headgear is for it to improve performance I don't think anyone ever added headgear hoping it makes a horse run worse.

At 12/1 i think he's a fair each way bet. In all probability he'll probably go bigger than that between now and off time. I'm going to try to find another couple to go with him between now and then.
 
2 of my biggest let downs from Goodwood run tomorrow night and didn't look like they were going to be much of a price but now the market is opening up a bit Bet365 are going 8/1 parole doro when everywhere else is 9/2 4/1 which i thought was about right must be some value in that 8's. Was a bit of a no show at Goodwood stuck further back than you'd want and hemmed in for a long time. Didn't exactly set the world a light when it got space. Previous run at Newmarket looked for all the world like this 10f trip would suit worth another go imo and hopefully get a bit better run will not mind the ground one bit.



Brosay in the 18.30 is now 9/1 best first opened up at 6s i think there is some value in that providing he can produce his best on this faster ground he's gone alright on good ground and ideally he's wants a stiff 5f with a bit of cut. Perhaps stepping up to 6f here he might just get home on better ground. Certainly well handicapped when things fall right for him.

Ive had a trixie on the 3.
 
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Needless to say I'm very, VERY, excited about this.

"Leafy" is going with one of his "beards" as his guest (which means he cops a free R4R ticket) and will be in the O&T, as "Leafy" is involved with one of the runners.

I shan't be in attendance, but I'll be there in spirit, watching at home.

Despite the excellent prize-money for the grade, I'm seeing some iffy RL rides, including on shorteners, and I reckon there's a few punters getting put away as this malarkey plays out.

A motley quartet I think could run ok if it's Good to Firm as advertised are: Zoulu Chief 6.30, Mythical Guest 7.00, Lieber Power 7.30 and Claymore 8.00.
 
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Ian_Davies said:
Needless to say I'm very, VERY, excited about this.

"Leafy" is going with one of his "beards" as his guest (which means he cops a free R4R ticket) and will be in the O&T, as "Leafy" is involved with one of the runners.

I shan't be in attendance, but I'll be there in spirit, watching at home.

Despite the excellent prize-money for the grade, I'm seeing some iffy RL rides, including on shorteners, and I reckon there's a few punters getting put away as this malarkey plays out.

A motley quartet I think could run ok if it's Good to Firm as advertised are: Zoulu Chief 6.30, Mythical Guest 7.00, Lieber Power 7.30 Windsor and Claymore 8.00 Windsor.
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Claymore sort of semi interests me, as he was never put in the race on Saturday with any sort of chance + couldn't have exerted himself much.
 
The 12f race at Royal Ascot might have taken its toll on Auld Toon Loon, hence the next run which was too bad to be true.

33 days off the track is a reasonable amount of time to get him good again though. I haven't forgotten how unlucky he was at Chester and thus he does have some back form. I think 10 furlongs is his correct trip. I'll take a chance on him in the last race tomorrow as at around 16/1, I'm happy enough to speculate.
 
Has every chance on his Chester run.

I just wonder if he's at his absolute best with some cut in the ground, but they were only 0.98s outside standard in that race in May and, if he's fully effective on tonight's expected Good to Firm, he's handicapped to go close if back to form.
 
Ian_Davies said:
A motley quartet I think could run ok if it's Good to Firm as advertised are: Zoulu Chief 6.30, Mythical Guest 7.00, Lieber Power 7.30 and Claymore 8.00.
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There's a Class 2 at Newmarket tomorrow night with £12,885 to the winner - Mythical Guest has been declared, but he can race for £25,770 in a Class 3 tonight on a card where even the Class 4s are worth £18,039 to the winner.
 
Danny said:
2 of my biggest let downs from Goodwood run tomorrow night and didn't look like they were going to be much of a price but now the market is opening up a bit Bet365 are going 8/1 parole doro when everywhere else is 9/2 4/1 which i thought was about right must be some value in that 8's. Was a bit of a no show at Goodwood stuck further back than you'd want and hemmed in for a long time. Didn't exactly set the world a light when it got space. Previous run at Newmarket looked for all the world like this 10f trip would suit worth another go imo and hopefully get a bit better run will not mind the ground one bit.



Brosay in the 18.30 is now 9/1 best first opened up at 6s i think there is some value in that providing he can produce his best on this faster ground he's gone alright on good ground and ideally he's wants a stiff 5f with a bit of cut. Perhaps stepping up to 6f here he might just get home on better ground. Certainly well handicapped when things fall right for him.

Ive had a trixie on the 3.
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That Parole Doro has been smashed into favouritism now, Danny.
Best of luck if you are on, he is a likely candidate.

Good support for Claymore too.

An interesting betting market.
 
Ian_Davies said:
The word on the street at the time was that you organised that, walsworth.

#therearenocoincidences

#therearenoaccidents
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17:30 Windsor
Outlandish 18/1 (bet365)
"Outlandish is not straightforward and I'm far from convinced this trip today is right, but horses often stay much further at Windsor than on other tracks. He will love the quick ground and if he gets home he will go well." Trainer
 
Danny said:
I was hoping to start getting back on track with searching for a big payday day and putting a multiple together for this thus far I've come up with one a couple of the others I was looking at are just not as big at the odds as I'd hoped.

5.30 Windsor Outlandish generally 12/1 4 places available with some bookies at that price.

There's enough in his runs at Nottingham, Yarmouth and his lto performance at Wolves to suggest this step up in trip will bring about improvement. His last performance at Wolves was in the racing league and he's finished a staying on 5th. The manor in which he achieved it caught my eye seemed to hate the tight bend there pumped along early forced widest of all and stayed on past horses who'd already passed him.

As I get older (and lazier) I like to simplify things and this is how I view it. How much does he need to improve from last time to win ? A fair bit, to place, not much. The fact he's run decently at a track that didn't suit him and he's got pushed widest of all and still finished a never nearer 5th. It's certainly looks like he'll benefit from the step up in trip to my eye. They've applied first time headgear for this for which as much as I'm not swayed whether thats a positive or a negative with horses as to whether it works or not. I always view it as at least the intentions when applying headgear is for it to improve performance I don't think anyone ever added headgear hoping it makes a horse run worse.

At 12/1 i think he's a fair each way bet. In all probability he'll probably go bigger than that between now and off time. I'm going to try to find another couple to go with him between now and then.
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17:30 Windsor
Outlandish 18/1 (bet365)
"Outlandish is not straightforward and I'm far from convinced this trip today is right, but horses often stay much further at Windsor than on other tracks. He will love the quick ground and if he gets home he will go well."
 
The Fortune Teller said:
That Parole Doro has been smashed into favouritism now, Danny.
Best of luck if you are on, he is a likely candidate.
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It's hardly smashed in tbf the 8/1 was just a mistake on 365's part he was 2nd favourite on everybody else's book id still expect him to drift back out a bit and Mr Swivell go off favourite. I've only backed him i. A multiple and probably lost as many points on Outlandish as I've gained on Parole doro as I thought I might as his chances aren't as obvious. In quite similar fashion Sword was smashed off the boards and last week and that ended up well didn't it.

To me though it makes no difference as I've pissed about the last month with bets here and there whilst I got back in the swing of things but no im back in search of a last big payday and im only really playing multiples aimed at that. I'm no longer interested in hovering over markets all time to make a few percent a year if that. The reality of punting is as Ian has pointed out he made a couple of percent over the year 8% the year before. Hes been around longer and puts more time in than most has connections that can get him on amongst bits and dabs of information on ground amongst other things. Thats more of a true reflection than some of the other things you hear spouted and remember thats getting on 6/1 winners at 40/1 backing 33/1 shots going off 9/4 and still only making a return you'd get on the average index fund. It is more fun though.

I'm not knocking this in anyway if its a game you enjoy and more than that if you enjoy the constant grind and the obsessive side of things and you can make money doing it then brilliant.

There used to be a time where I knew my arse from my elbow when it came to horses unfortunately that time has passed. Ive got lazier and lazier and no longer enjoy putting the hours in. However I do enjoy having a quick flick taking a couple of half educated guesses and trying to have it right off so thats probably the future for me as far as im concerned.

I'm under no illusion that playing the game like this its a long time between drinks but I know when I cop one I'll drink well for a while.
 
luckyme said:
17:30 Windsor
Outlandish 18/1 (bet365)
"Outlandish is not straightforward and I'm far from convinced this trip today is right, but horses often stay much further at Windsor than on other tracks. He will love the quick ground and if he gets home he will go well."
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Are these trainer comments you're putting up mate ?
 
Cheers personally I think hes crying out for this trip trainer not sure market says not so we'll see. Think he's cracking value at 20's now.
 

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