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The 2025 York August Meeting Day 1 (Wednesday) thread

I don't really look at form
Any fool can read a formbook - it's being able to see what others can't see (and tbf sometimes hear what others don't get to hear) that matters in the long run.

The only things worth knowing in this game are the things others don't know.
 
Here's an opinion.

Lambourn peaked earlier in the summer but I think he's opposable tomorrow at those odds. I'd advocate a place lay, but I don't use exchanges for reasons I need not go into, so I won't place lay him myself, but wouldn't put you off.

He had it all his own way at Epsom and then could only beat his 101 rated stablemate three quarters of a length at the Curragh, a horse who couldnt even win a handicap at Royal Ascot the time before.

Pride Of Arras might be a different proposition after the gelding operation and he'll do as the fly in the ointment.
 
Quite a few are putting up Pride Of Arras as the value against Lambourn - he won the Dante here in style and every horse has its price, but he's been desperate since and a lot is being pinned on him having been gelded.

The Queen's Vase isn't considered a "sexy" race historically by many, but since they reduced it to 1m6f from 2m it's had more middle-distance relevance and this year's renewal has worked out well so far.

I think Cammers might give Lambourn most to do.
 
I have Pride Of Arras as an ew bet alongside a win bet on Lambourn, cos of it's win in the York Dante Flat Stakes 1m 2f 56y Group2 in May, see my York Great Voltigeur trial/pointer race stats below.
They reduced the distance for the Queens Vase in 2017 and in 8 runs at the lower distance there still hasn't been a winner in the Great Voltigeur come from that race but one did place last year. Who knows this might be lucky number 9.


20250820 1500 York Great Voltigeur Stakes trial race stats.jpg
 
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Has anyone ever noticed that on Betfair Exchange they periodically type one horse in CAPS instead of U/lc in the markets?

They've been doing it for years.

I have a theory it's the market ops/content managers having a self-indulgent cryptic tipping game among themselves.

I'd settle for them actually simply doing their job properly tbh.

Anyway, it's The Man - sorry, THE MAN - today.

If it gets beat every mother's son of them should be sacked - no pressure.
 
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Has anyone ever noticed that on Betfair Exchange they periodically type one horse in CAPS instead of U/lc in the markets?

They've been doing it for years.

I have a theory it's the market ops/content managers having a self-indulgent cryptic tipping game among themselves.

I'd settle for them actually simply doing their job properly tbh.

Anyway, it's The Man - sorry, THE MAN - today.

If it gets beat every mother's son of them should be sacked - no pressure.
I’m hoping The Man and my selection, Vantheman, are battling out the finish, just so I can listen to the commentary on it.
 
Anyone fancy FIREBLADE................
16:10 York..................8/1 (bet365)

"As long as the rain stays away I'm confident Fireblade will run a massive race and I think he's my most realistic chance of a winner this week at York, a track that's been kind to me since I've been training over here. He won very nicely at the Shergar Cup and is as fit as a fiddle. Very hopeful."
Trainer
 
I hope that first race is not an indication of what's to come. This is how I saw it.

This race could fall apart since none are actually handicapped to win so we could see more than half the field strung across the course with two furlongs to run only for them to run out of steam late. I’ll be very surprised if it doesn’t go to an improver so I’m focusing on them. Trefor, Marty Hopkirk, The Man and Air Force One look the most likely. I’d favour the latter pair since Spencer showed in the Stewards’ Cup what he can do with sprinters and Oldroyd has a colossal strike rate for a small yard. I’ll cover these two with Brazen Bolt who is the only one who could still be well handicapped on his old form as he was rated 102 back then and won with something in hand at Goodwood as though he was returning to his best.

I decided I preferred The Man to Trefor so let the latter go. Can't back them all, though. :confused:
 
I get that the 4.10 at York is highly competitive, but the market has Alphonse Le Grande at 5/1 and 11/2. I thought the original 4/1 was fair enough. Just because the models are bigger doesn’t ever put me off.
 
Here's an opinion.

Lambourn peaked earlier in the summer but I think he's opposable tomorrow at those odds. I'd advocate a place lay, but I don't use exchanges for reasons I need not go into, so I won't place lay him myself, but wouldn't put you off.

He had it all his own way at Epsom and then could only beat his 101 rated stablemate three quarters of a length at the Curragh, a horse who couldnt even win a handicap at Royal Ascot the time before.

Pride Of Arras might be a different proposition after the gelding operation and he'll do as the fly in the ointment.
Great call.
 

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