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The remaining November Meeting races at Cheltenham

Danny said:
I'm waiting patiently for the crafty bumper man to turn up.

Someone posted up Seo linn last year 12's and it went off 5/2 and to the 30,000 strong chant of Gwan Billy ! It duly obliged. I have a feeling it was one of our older wiser and quieter members I'm thinking Archie failing that its Edgt or Grey.

Come from behind the curtain and bless us with the winner of the "get out of the shit on Saturday" bumper stakes

If you'd be so kind.
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I think it was Edgt, Danny.

Personally I think Gullible's liking for Edith Pelham might not be misplaced. The worry I'd have is that her previous run was only three weeks ago but she is one of those who might handle the conditions.
 
I'm told it stopped raining in the early hours and no more is expected now.

On times, I'd say it was Soft yesterday at the start of racing but by the last race it was more like Heavy.

I am hopeful racing will go ahead today but, regardless of any Official description, I shall be operating on the assumption it will be Heavy.

Navan and Uttoxeter also inspect at 7.30am, but I think there's a fair chance they will all survive (just) - I obviously hope so, anyway.

It's 42 years since my only visit to this day's racing, when a rickety mini bus took me and other student members of my newly-founded Warwick University Turf Club there (and - somehow! - back).

It was foggy, packed, but we saw the talented but ill-fated Noddys Ryde make all in the 2m novice chase and I attained temporary popularity by putting up Pounentes at 8/1 who won the Mackeson.

Sadly there is no footage as the BBC camera staff were on strike.

I hope all who go today have a good time.

Here's Your Favourite Uncle Smart Arse's Today and Tomorrow Survival Guide -

1 Side, today at least, with horses who either have proven form on Heavy, or are bred to love it and are preferably actually in some sort of recent form, thus demonstrating not only current well being but the race fitness levels required to deal with attritional conditions.

2 Wrap up warm.

3 If a follicly-challenged gentleman of limited stature, who appears somewhat the worse for drink, approaches you and asks if you're from TH, pretend you don't even speak English and quicken your pace as you walk away. You are most at risk of this on Saturday as he's currently 1.01 to be helping the Police with their enquiries before being given free overnight accommodation, compliments of Gloucestershire Constabulary, by the concluding bumper this afternoon.
 
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I have feelings you know Ian.

Still currently in my pyjamas, case not packed no idea what to wear as I'm ill prepared for winter days racing seen as I rarely venture outside other than to work or forage for food and beer. Im looking for the warmest thing i can find to wear which currently is looking like my daughters pikachu onesie a Santa hat and my Mrs size 5 ugg boots which may be a squeeze.
 
Danny said:
I have feelings you know Ian.
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Reminds me of a line in "My Fair Lady" when Pickering (Wilfrid Hyde-White) says: "Does it occur to you, Higgins (Rex Harrison), that the girl (Eliza Doolittle - the stunning Audrey Hepburn) has some feelings?" to which Higgins cheerfully replies: "Oh no, I don't think so. Not any feelings that we need bother about."

I'm not sure about the Onesie if you want me to offer my most brutal logistically-practical fashion advice, but the Ugg boots are a winner - you're up on the day before racing even commences if you walk into Prestbury Park sporting those!
 
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The ground at Cheltenham is now officially: "Heavy, Soft in places," according to a racecourse update at 6.37am, surely suggesting prospects of racing going ahead are bright. However, there will still be an inspection at 7.30am to assess running lines.
 
I can see a scenario today where they run up to The PPGC and then abandon the rest so they don’t have to offer a refund or is that me just being cynical ? I certainly do not think that all 7 races will be run a would be interested in anyone offering odds about ALL 7 being run 😎
 
Edith Pelham


9/1 (bet365)

"Edith Pelham got off the mark with a gritty display on stable debut. This mares' Listed race is a big step up but she will love the ground and we think there is more to come from her. Each-way hopes in a high-class contest."

Trainer
 
again this is from a lad from a forum he puts these up everyday since day 1 for free

I'm taking on a couple at Cheltenham today that are fancied and both have the ability to make me look a mug !

1455 Cheltenham Supremely West
Markets like it, Tipsters like it but I don’t think it’s worth the price on offer.
I’m guessing the owners have switched stables as they expect more from this one.
Spent 2 years with Newland and had a hurdles return of 3/11 and 7 other top 3 finishes.
Its best win was a Class 3 Handicap Hurdles at Haydock in heavy going where it’s mark was 127.
Since that win it was put up into the high 130’s where it has struggled.
Newland didn’t do bad at all with the Horse so is the expectation of greater things worth 7/4.
Its record in today’s Class is 0/4.
Races off 138 today which is 11 lbs higher than its best performance.
Its record in handicap Hurdles is 1/8.
The highest Average OR of any race that its won has been 121 which was a novice Hurdle at Sedgefield. The other 2 wins came at 116 and 117.
Today’s average OR is 125 and every time we’ve been over that 121 he’s lost = 0/5.
Trainer had a Handicap Hurdle winner yesterday but that broke a Course losing run of 21 so he’s not prolific within that sphere.
Jockey hasn’t ridden a Handicap Hurdle winner since November last year and his losing run is 14.
If the Horse had shown little I could see the argument for a Skelton transformation but for me the form and quality is already there and on show.
The sort of lay that can make me look extremely daft but at the predicted price I’m happy to take the risk.

1530 Cheltenham Jurancon
Horse has had 8 runs in its career and never finished out of the Top 2.
But he’s never gone over further than 2m 1f.
Steps up to 2m 5f and has a ratings rise of 5lbs to 132.
Sire at the Course is very limited with a record of 0/2 and both were Hurdlers.
If we look at the Sire over Chase and Hurdles the last 5 years at today’s distance the record is 1/12. Over Hurdles, over the last 5 years, there has been 34 runs at 2m 4f and above with 3 winners.
It raises the question will Jurancon stay on the going?
Race trends throw a couple of questions in as well:
Out of the last 10 only 3 have carried over 11st 7lbs to victory and only 3 have been off course for more than 60 days.
Selection has 11st 8lbs on its back and hasn’t been seen for 259 days. This would be the biggest lay off to take this race.
Jockey at the Course the last 5 years with Hurdlers is 1/17. He hasn’t ridden a Hurdle winner here since April 2022 and the losing run is 13 and he’s only been placed once.
 
Earlier in the week, I said on another thread that Hallelujah U was a lousy price ante-post at 3/1.

Well, he's now double-digit odds - he may detest the ground, but the yard won this last year and if all eight run he must have some sort of chance of being in the three.

Regarding Cheltenham generally, I am as quick to criticise as anyone but those saying Friday should have been sacrificed (I was hearing this on social media last night) for today would have cost the track yesterday's revenue had it been their call to make and to no avail as racing goes ahead today anyway.

If they can get racing on in some shape or form today and tomorrow, it's job done as far as they are concerned.

I think they'll race all three days now - not least because they'll have Danny to answer to if they don't.
 
luckyme said:
again this is from a lad from a forum he puts these up everyday since day 1 for free

I'm taking on a couple at Cheltenham today that are fancied and both have the ability to make me look a mug !

1455 Cheltenham Supremely West
Markets like it, Tipsters like it but I don’t think it’s worth the price on offer.
I’m guessing the owners have switched stables as they expect more from this one.
Spent 2 years with Newland and had a hurdles return of 3/11 and 7 other top 3 finishes.
Its best win was a Class 3 Handicap Hurdles at Haydock in heavy going where it’s mark was 127.
Since that win it was put up into the high 130’s where it has struggled.
Newland didn’t do bad at all with the Horse so is the expectation of greater things worth 7/4.
Its record in today’s Class is 0/4.
Races off 138 today which is 11 lbs higher than its best performance.
Its record in handicap Hurdles is 1/8.
The highest Average OR of any race that its won has been 121 which was a novice Hurdle at Sedgefield. The other 2 wins came at 116 and 117.
Today’s average OR is 125 and every time we’ve been over that 121 he’s lost = 0/5.
Trainer had a Handicap Hurdle winner yesterday but that broke a Course losing run of 21 so he’s not prolific within that sphere.
Jockey hasn’t ridden a Handicap Hurdle winner since November last year and his losing run is 14.
If the Horse had shown little I could see the argument for a Skelton transformation but for me the form and quality is already there and on show.
The sort of lay that can make me look extremely daft but at the predicted price I’m happy to take the risk.

1530 Cheltenham Jurancon
Horse has had 8 runs in its career and never finished out of the Top 2.
But he’s never gone over further than 2m 1f.
Steps up to 2m 5f and has a ratings rise of 5lbs to 132.
Sire at the Course is very limited with a record of 0/2 and both were Hurdlers.
If we look at the Sire over Chase and Hurdles the last 5 years at today’s distance the record is 1/12. Over Hurdles, over the last 5 years, there has been 34 runs at 2m 4f and above with 3 winners.
It raises the question will Jurancon stay on the going?
Race trends throw a couple of questions in as well:
Out of the last 10 only 3 have carried over 11st 7lbs to victory and only 3 have been off course for more than 60 days.
Selection has 11st 8lbs on its back and hasn’t been seen for 259 days. This would be the biggest lay off to take this race.
Jockey at the Course the last 5 years with Hurdlers is 1/17. He hasn’t ridden a Hurdle winner here since April 2022 and the losing run is 13 and he’s only been placed once.
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:confused: For every negative there is a positive

from a tipster...
TODAY'S FREE PUNTING POINTER
Supremely West beat a course specialist into 4th here last month, staying on strongly when 3rd in what looked a warm race.

The ground was good that day, but he should relish the softer conditions this time around, which gives him a further edge in his rematch against Long Draw.

The market leader has plenty going for him and should take all the beating this afternoon.

Supremely West runs in the 2.55 at Cheltenham.
 
Ian_Davies said:
There are a few in this that could interest me at the right price, but, among those, and looking at the odds on offer thus far, the 40/1 Hung Jury catches my eye.

This 10yo didn't run too badly at the last meeting, was only beaten 12¼ lengths, and is 2lb lower here.

Sean O'Connor is a rider I consider good value for his 5lb claim in the context of these races, but James King is hardly a downgrade.

King is an exceptional amateur, better than some professionals in my book, and was on the horse when it beat the talented Highway Jewel in the Chaddesley Corbett mud two years ago.

A winner over 4m110yds at the Hunters' Chase meeting here in May, it can rain as much as it likes because this beast will stay every rain-soaked yard of the 3m1f.

No need to thank me when it sluices in, I'm all about helping drunk little bald fellas fund getting the best legal representation money can buy when they're up before the Beak at the Cotswolds Bloody Assizes.
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Could the last Doubting Thomas as to the DIVINITY of Your Favourite Uncle Smart Arse please switch off the light as they exit the building?

Your resident punter GOD just funded your entire weekends.

SMUG MODE!
 
Ian_Davies said:
There are a few in this that could interest me at the right price, but, among those, and looking at the odds on offer thus far, the 40/1 Hung Jury catches my eye.

This 10yo didn't run too badly at the last meeting, was only beaten 12¼ lengths, and is 2lb lower here.

Sean O'Connor is a rider I consider good value for his 5lb claim in the context of these races, but James King is hardly a downgrade.

King is an exceptional amateur, better than some professionals in my book, and was on the horse when it beat the talented Highway Jewel in the Chaddesley Corbett mud two years ago.

A winner over 4m110yds at the Hunters' Chase meeting here in May, it can rain as much as it likes because this beast will stay every rain-soaked yard of the 3m1f.

No need to thank me when it sluices in, I'm all about helping drunk little bald fellas fund getting the best legal representation money can buy when they're up before the Beak at the Cotswolds Bloody Assizes.
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Ian_Davies said:
There are a few in this that could interest me at the right price, but, among those, and looking at the odds on offer thus far, the 40/1 Hung Jury catches my eye.

This 10yo didn't run too badly at the last meeting, was only beaten 12¼ lengths, and is 2lb lower here.

Sean O'Connor is a rider I consider good value for his 5lb claim in the context of these races, but James King is hardly a downgrade.

King is an exceptional amateur, better than some professionals in my book, and was on the horse when it beat the talented Highway Jewel in the Chaddesley Corbett mud two years ago.

A winner over 4m110yds at the Hunters' Chase meeting here in May, it can rain as much as it likes because this beast will stay every rain-soaked yard of the 3m1f.

No need to thank me when it sluices in, I'm all about helping drunk little bald fellas fund getting the best legal representation money can buy when they're up before the Beak at the Cotswolds Bloody Assizes.
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Not bad. Have you considered a role as a television tipster?
 

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