The Road To The 2013 Grand National

colbert street is going to have a couple more runs perhaps 1 in the bobbyjoe as walsh says he cant recall a national winner having so few runs over fences

looks a good type for the national but maybe hawkwing is right that 2014 will be the target
 
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Weights out today


THE 2013 JOHN SMITH'S GRAND NATIONAL

Class 1, Grade 3, £975,000. Aintree, Saturday, April 6th. 4m. 3f. 110yds.

Form Horse Age/Wgt Owner Trainer

1)541-121 TIDAL BAY (IRE) 12-11-10 Andrea & Graham Wylie Paul Nicholls

2) P12/123- ALBERTAS RUN (IRE) 12-11-08 Trevor Hemmings Jonjo O'Neill

3) 51U/1P/-2 IMPERIAL COMMANDER (IRE) 12-11-06 Our Friends in the North Nigel Twiston-Davies

4)13-3361 QUITO DE LA ROQUE (FR) 9-11-05 Gigginstown House Stud Colm Murphy IRE

5)4P/33F0- WHAT A FRIEND 10-11-05 Ged Mason & Sir Alex Ferguson Paul Nicholls

6)4-F0211 KATENKO (FR) 7-11-04 Andrew Brooks Venetia Williams

7) 13PF-4PP WEIRD AL (IRE) 10-11-04 Brannon Dick Holden Donald McCain

8) 351/51-1 PRINCE DE BEAUCHENE (FR) 10-11-03 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE

9) F1113-04 QUEL ESPRIT (FR) 9-11-03 Red Barn Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE

10)440/-U31 BIG FELLA THANKS 11-11-02 Crossed Fingers Partnership Tom George

11)000-1U35 ROBERTO GOLDBACK (IRE) 11-11-02 Simon Munir Nicky Henderson

12) 1//11113-2 SEABASS (IRE) 10-11-02 Gunners Syndicate Ted Walsh IRE

13) 5110-P4 CALGARY BAY (IRE) 10-11-01 Camilla Radford Mick Channon

14) 234-F211 CALL THE POLICE (IRE) 10-11-01 DD Racing Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE

15)11/P10/-0 PANDORAMA (IRE) 10-11-01 Robert Bagnall Noel Meade IRE

16) 511112 ROI DU MEE (FR) 8-11-01 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE

17)121/46-P0 BALLABRIGGS (IRE) 12-11-00 Trevor Hemmings Donald McCain

18) 310-3P4 MIDNIGHT CHASE 11-11-00 Lady Clarke Neil Mulholland

19)P012-5P SUNNYHILLBOY (IRE) 10-11-00 J P McManus Jonjo O'Neill

20) P11-062 TEAFORTHREE (IRE) 9-10-13 T437 Rebecca Curtis

21)P3-1120 ACROSS THE BAY (IRE) 9-10-12 Scotch Piper Syndicate Donald McCain

22)11P3-02 JOIN TOGETHER (IRE) 8-10-12 Ian Fogg & Paul Barber Paul Nicholls

23)5/230-53 PLANET OF SOUND 11-10-12 Charles Lloyd-Baker Philip Hobbs

24)0511306 BOB LINGO (IRE) 11-10-11 J P McManus Tom Mullins IRE

25)413-5211 COLBERT STATION (IRE) 9-10-11 J P McManus Ted Walsh IRE

26)6P00-1FP LITTLE JOSH (IRE) 11-10-11 Tony Bloom Nigel Twiston-Davies

27)1-12141 TOFINO BAY (IRE) 10-10-11 Gigginstown House Stud Dessie Hughes IRE

28)64-2P153 FORPADYDEPLASTERER (IRE) 11-10-10 Goat Racing Syndicate Thomas Cooper IRE

29) 4P1/B1F- ON HIS OWN (IRE) 9-10-10 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE

30) 20-35233 JONCOL (IRE) 10-10-09 Kay Browne Paul Nolan IRE

31) 10511-P LION NA BEARNAI (IRE) 11-10-09 The Lock Syndicate Tom Gibney IRE

32)P0F1-12 BALTHAZAR KING (IRE) 9-10-08 The Brushmakers Philip Hobbs

33) 5/5/4-14P THE PACKAGE 10-10-08 David Johnson David Pipe

34)P-06F226 BOSTONS ANGEL (IRE) 9-10-07 Elder Scouller Jessica Harrington IRE

35)P//1334-2 CAPPA BLEU (IRE) 11-10-07 William & Angela Rucker Evan Williams

36)632/4-4U OSCAR TIME (IRE) 12-10-07 Robert Waley-Cohen/Sir Martin & Steve Broughton Martin Lynch IRE

37)044001- ALWAYS WAINING (IRE) 12-10-06 Mr & Mrs Peter Douglas Peter Bowen

38) 01236-14 LAMBRO (IRE) 8-10-06 Byerley Thoroughbred Racing Willie Mullins IRE

39)131P/PP- QUINZ (FR) 9-10-06 Andrew Cohen Philip Hobbs

40) 0/015U-6 TATENEN (FR) 9-10-06 The Stewart Family Richard Rowe

41)1/U121/5- BESHABAR (IRE) 11-10-05 Middleham Park Racing X & Ann Burrows Tim Vaughan

42)30/1122/- JESSIES DREAM (IRE) 10-10-05 David Johnson Gordon Elliott IRE

43)51423F- TREACLE (IRE) 12-10-05 Bjorn Nielsen Tom Taaffe IRE

44)011611 LOST GLORY (NZ) 8-10-04 J P McManus Jonjo O'Neill

45)1211-5F PROBLEMA TIC (FR) 7-10-04 Jo Tracey David Pipe

46)4U01-F4 SAINT ARE (FR) 7-10-04 David Fox Tim Vaughan

47) 00P-P14 SWING BILL (FR) 12-10-04 David Johnson David Pipe

48)11F2-11 WYCK HILL (IRE) 9-10-04 SAB Partnership David Bridgwater

49)2B-0U63 CHICAGO GREY (IRE) 10-10-03 John Earls Gordon Elliott IRE

50) PP-52202 MAGNANIMITY (IRE) 9-10-03 Gigginstown House Stud Dessie Hughes IRE

51) 4010F-60 QUISCOVER FONTAINE (FR) 9-10-03 J P McManus Willie Mullins IRE

52)2F-63PP BECAUSEICOULDNTSEE (IRE) 10-10-02 Noel Glynn Noel Glynn IRE

53)21B-4FP FRISCO DEPOT 9-10-02 Waley-Cohen, Burke, Broughton, Broughton Charlie Longsdon

54)112P-P0 HARRY THE VIKING 8-10-02 Sir Alex Ferguson, Ged Mason, R Wood & P Done Paul Nicholls

55)053B0-6 RARE BOB (IRE) 11-10-02 D A Syndicate Dessie Hughes IRE

56) 04-311P THE RAINBOW HUNTER 9-10-02 May We Never Be Found Out Partnership Kim Bailey

57) 0-23602 MR MOONSHINE (IRE) 9-10-01 Sue Smith Sue Smith

58)1133FP MUMBLES HEAD (IRE) 12-10-00 Karen Bowen Peter Bowen

59)30/F2PP-4 PEARLYSTEPS 10-10-00 The Glazeley Partnership Henry Daly

60)2-U0P45 AURORAS ENCORE (IRE) 11-9-13 D Pryde, J Beaumont & D P van der Hoeven Sue Smith

61)1F-3F604 NINETIETH MINUTE (IRE) 10-9-13 Dermot Cox Tom Taaffe IRE

62) 0513-30 ALFIE SHERRIN 10-9-12 J P McManus Jonjo O'Neill

63)1P1142 TARQUINIUS (FR) 10-9-12 Mary Furlong Gordon Elliott IRE

64) 030U-06 MATUHI 10-9-11 Willsford Racing Incorporated David Pipe

65)04-13116 MISTER HYDE (IRE) 8-9-11 Bensaranat Club & Bill McLuskey Jonjo O'Neill

66)3-614U4 ANY CURRENCY (IRE) 10-9-10 Cash Is King Martin Keighley

67) 1P-4PP0 CROSS APPEAL (IRE) 7-9-10 John Corr Noel Meade IRE

68) 50-6440 TARTAK (FR) 10-9-10 Power Panels Electrical Systems Ltd Tim Vaughan

69) 4P2P-26 MAJOR MALARKEY (IRE) 10-9-09 Baker, Dodd & Cooke Nigel Twiston-Davies

70)(0)6U1/-50 POKER DE SIVOLA (FR) 10-9-09 David Johnson Ferdy Murphy

71) 1P/1/401-3 SUMMERY JUSTICE (IRE) 9-9-09 Mrs H Brown Venetia Williams

72) P/5000/P- BACKSTAGE (FR) 11-9-08 MPR & Capranny Syndicate Gordon Elliott IRE

73) 1/21B-00 SOLL 8-9-08 Derrick Mossop Jo Hughes

74) U1F1020 ROMANESCO (FR) 8-9-07 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE

75)0-121365 SHAKERVILZ (FR) 10-9-07 Wicklow Bloodstock Limited Willie Mullins IRE

76)FP-023P2 VIKING BLOND (FR) 8-9-07 Caroline Mould Nigel Twiston-Davies

77)40//2161-3 CLOUDY LANE 13-9-06 Trevor Hemmings Donald McCain

78)05r316 OUTLAW PETE (IRE) 9-9-06 J P McManus John Halley IRE

79)120-25F FABALU (IRE) 11-9-05 Tim Leslie Donald McCain

80) 0-000165 PENTIFFIC (NZ) 10-9-04 P Sinn, P Lawrence, L Sutcliffe, M Smith Venetia Williams

81)33F425 ODYSSEAS (FR) 10-9-03 Mrs Jean Porzier Yann Porzier FR

82)0/44-060 GULLIBLE GORDON (IRE) 10-9-02 Yeh Man Partnership Peter Bowen

83)1P-2215 MORTIMERS CROSS 12-9-02 John Needham John Needham

83 entries. 31 Irish-trained. 1 French-trained



Current betting: 14/1 On His Own, Prince De Beauchene, Seabass; 16/1 Tidal Bay; 20/1 Beshabar, Colbert Station, Join Together, Roi Du Mee, Sunnyhillboy, Teaforthree; 25/1 Cappa Bleu, Harry The Viking, Katenko, Magnanimity, The Package; 33/1 Across The Bay, Albertas Run, Alfie Sherrin, Ballabriggs, Balthazar King, Big Fella Thanks, Bostons Angel, Frisco Depot, Imperial Commander, Lambro, Lion Na Bearnai, Oscar Time, Outlaw Pete, Roberto Goldback, Romanesco, Saint Are, Tofino Bay, Weird Al, What A Friend, Wyck Hill; 40/1 Call The Police, Chicago Grey, Jessies Dream, Lost Glory, Mister Hyde, Planet of Sound, Quel Esprit, Quiscover Fontaine, Quito de La Roque, Tarquinius; 50/1 Always Waining, Any Currency, Auroras Encore, Becauseicouldntsee, Bob Lingo, Forpadydeplasterer, Joncol, Little Josh, Ninetieth Minute, Pandorama, Problema Tic, Quinz, Rare Bob, Swing Bill, Tartak, The Rainbow Hunter, Treacle; 66/1 Backstage, Calgary Bay, Cloudy Lane, Cross Appeal, Midnight Chase, Mr Moonshine, Pearlysteps, Poker De Sivola, Shakervilz, Soll, Summery Justice, Viking Blond; 100/1 Fabalu, Gullible Gordon, Major Malarkey, Matuhi, Mortimers Cross, Mumbles Head, Odysseas, Pentiffic, Tatenen.
 
20) P11-062 TEAFORTHREE (IRE) 9-10-13 T437 Rebecca Curtis

Will this go off odds against?
 
At the weights if they can get him back to near his best I'd be all over PANDORAMA like a rash.

He's a better horse on soft but the extra distance could compensate somewhat for that.

I took a real liking to him before he was injured hopefully he'll turn up.

Pandorama 220 on the machine
 
At this stage - Teaforthree, Wyck Hill and Prince de Beauchene (mainly because he's likely to be Ruby's ride - assuming the latter doesn't do a cartwheel in the Aintree Hurdle again) stand out for me.
 
The Tidal weight compared to Seabass is a disgrace. Smith must have put his stones on PFN getting top trainer again. I dont think either will win but i wonder why some bother.
 
Another I could see running well is Planet of Sound, a classy sort who has dropped a bit in the weights, but at the moment I'm happy with the three I put up earlier in this thread.
 
OTB said:
The Tidal weight compared to Seabass is a disgrace. Smith must have put his stones on PFN getting top trainer again. I dont think either will win but i wonder why some bother.
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Suitability to the National test comes into it. Seabass ran a cracker in the race last year but it's completely the wrong race for Tidal Bay. He'll get outpaced early and even if he doesn't sulk the best he can hope for is a running on 4th.
 
I backed Beshabar antepost last year, every time I had a winner I'd throw a few quid on it, ended up being a non runner. Off a better weight this year and although not run could be a worth a few quid each way. Currently 41st in the weights so would expect it to get in comfortably. Hugh Taylor has given it a mention as well in his column today. I'm not going to back it ante post this time but I'll keep an eye on its price and if the money starts to come for it I may well dive in...
 
There are five factors that all 10 of the last Grand National winners have in common...

1. Officially Rated 138-157
2. Won at least over 3m
3. At least one top 3 finish in last 3 runs
4. Between three and six starts since August
5. Won a chase worth at least £29,000

Add two more

6. 8/10 carried no more than 11st 1lb
7. 8/10 were aged nine or ten

And that leaves just 6 horses entered who meet all seven of the statistics:

Teaforthree
Colbert Station
Tofino Bay
Joncol
Bostons Angel
Chicago Grey
 
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