The Ryanair Chase thread 2018

yeah no ruby probably puts me off Yorkhill unless he's a mega price

if Cue Card is the big danger maybe it's just as simple as backing UDS. just cannot have the former and also wonder the affect the ascot chase may have on him. it was a brutal end to end gallop less than 4 weeks before this race.
 
Waiting Patiently won't run though. Brian Hughes is pretty much telling everyone who will listen. I reckon UDS is one of the best value favourites at the Festival at the moment. There's absolutely nothing to beat him.

I'm not buying in to ground or stamina issues either. He's well past his choke out days. He settles easily, has good tactical speed,and wouldn't have been out of place in the King George at Christmas.

I fear you're probably right.

If he didn't, I think I would honestly chance Frodon each-way at 16/1, against the front two........for largely the same reasons as I boosted for Waiting Patiently.

He was well-beaten at Ascot, but that came very-quick after a mighty run in a Cheltenham handicap (off top-weight), and I've be inclined to forgive him a little. He also loves the track, jumps well, and has age on his side.
 
I agree with that too. The value each way plays are Frodon and Cloudy Dream.

Balko Des Flos is dreadful value, and I'm not seeing what some others are seeing with his form anyway. And as much as I love Cue Card I really can't see it now.
 
Cue Card does look huge Bear..........all I can see is him and Un De Sceaux plus aload on non runners
Waiting Patiently4

Min6

Balko Des Flosin13/2

Top Notch7

Cue Card8

Douvan8

Yorkhill10


Cloudy Dream12

Benie Des Dieux14

Djakadam16

Frodon16

Bachasson20

Bellshill20


Gold Present
 
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Given the way this race has cut up I wonder if Nicky will consider running Gold Present here instead of off top weight in the Festival Chase? He'd be interesting in my opinion, and I think I've just talked myself into a nrnb ew bet.
 
Cue Card does look huge Bear..........all I can see is him and Un De Sceaux plus aload on non runners
Waiting Patiently4

Min6

Balko Des Flosin13/2

Top Notch7

Cue Card8

Douvan8

Yorkhill10


Cloudy Dream12

Benie Des Dieux14

Djakadam16

Frodon16

Bachasson20

Bellshill20


Gold Present

Le Prezien.
 
Add Cloudy Dream to a "Can't Possibly Win But Will Place" double, with L'Ami Serge.

I have Cloudy in a few of those myself including one with the Shuffler :ninja: 20's and 40's :) I haven't written Cloudy off for winning completely but would think he's evens to finish 2nd. I just think the way this race will pan out will be absolutely ideal.

Him and the unlikely to line up Le Prezien for me against the field. I had backed Top Notch quite heavy NRNB and was pleased to get my money back as I'd completely written him off after Ascot.

Cue Card backers I can completely see where they are coming from I've always thought this was the race for him my only worry would be backing him at short prices now is he went very,very hard at Ascot whether he'd be completely over that would put me off. Same applies to Frodon Grass he had a hard race at Cheltenham and he's been pushed pretty hard again at Ascot this comes too quickly for him again IMO. I'm hoping with the positions I hold that WP and Sub lieutenant don't line up I'd be glad to have them out of the way.

If WP does turn up it will be a hell of a clash with the UDS and I couldn't split them in truth. If Cue card has got over his last run then he'd be right there with them but I'm hoping that's not the case on both counts.
 
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Why Danny, are you balls deep on UDS, or something else?

Just answered above no not completely balls deep mate I have Cloudy dream in quite a few e/w multiples and maybe a fair bit on him in singles because I'd played a lot of e/w doubles with him thinking it was buying place money but ones like CML and a couple of other haven't turned up so now they are singles.

Le prezien though I'm in for 16 quid to near 6k on the exchanges and have £30 e/w at 50's NRNB plus I'd have included him in a couple of e/w multi's.

So not big in terms of outlay but rewards could be massive. He's still 150 on the machine (I've had between 200 and 450 I think) However just noticed today that he's drifting for the Plate and the Jonny Henderson so fingers crossed JP wants a runner in the Ryan Air and he's the only option. Better ground and better round of jumping he has a serious chance of framing IMO if the likes of WP are out of the way that is.

Prayer Mat out overnight for a good declaration stage.
 
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Very conflicted about this race. As an each way scumbag (and think UDS is very beatable) I'd love to have a solid 5/1 second fav. Don't think Balko des Flow is as good as his last run suggests. Not mad about backing 12 year old cue card at 6/1 after a hard race last time.

Cloudy dream is likely to place but seems very hard to win with.

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Add Cloudy Dream to a "Can't Possibly Win But Will Place" double, with L'Ami Serge.

Does it count if they are both in the same race ? :lol:

Putting 2 and 2 together. No Top Notch + Wholestone in the Stayers = Lami Serge goes Ryan Air.
 
Actually at still 40/1 NRNB with Betfred I'm in on that.

1/4 odds 3 place too.
 
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Does it count if they are both in the same race ? :lol:

Putting 2 and 2 together. No Top Notch + Wholestone in the Stayers = Lami Serge goes Ryan Air.

Tried to do a similar equation for the 7 Mullins entries and realised I'm in desperate need of an advanced Maths course.
 
Posted this over at my place yesterday and thought it worth putting up over here even though I've probably just thrown away a few quid.

I was having a think about this. I'd already posted that I put what I believed to be a throw away bet on the exchanges on Le prezien for this. I'm a fan of the horse and although betslo has stated he's not good enough I'd probably disagree although maybe I'd be pushing it to say he could win but I certainly think he's capable of running a big race here. I've backed him at prices around and over 400 on the machine (now to take out a touch over 5k) which would suggest he will be a NR. I've also backed him for the plate NRNB which looks like the more realistic target. However, I've noticed STD said that Romain de Senam is his best chance of a handicap winner (in the plate) as he's been crying out for better ground, I think that's fair enough comment. On going through the race I noticed just how many entries PFN holds in it, I also noticed that JP holds multiple entries in it including a few that would hold a solid chance.

I've then taken a look at the Ryan Air and JP only holds 2 entries Coney Island and Le prezien. Firstly Coney Island was supposedly on course to have a crack at the Gold cup. He then got his arse handed to him at Ascot completely took off his feet blundered and PU. Its doubtful we'd see him at Cheltenham at all now and even more doubtful that they'd think of re-opposing those that battered him at Ascot. Now, Le prezien probably only has 3 options he can either run in the Plate, The Jonny Henderson or the Ryan Air. With JP having loaded entries in both handicaps and Le prezien having a handicap mark that's effectively seen as a tough one to win a handicap off I'm half wondering whether they would just let him take his chance in the graded event. I certainly hope they might anyway.

Is he Good enough ? Well for sure he has a fair bit to find and he also struggles with his jumping sometimes. His run in the Paddy Power was when all things considered a very big run. Given the mistakes he made his position in the race and where he finished I thought it was a very good performance. Although he indeed flopped in the Caspian Caviar this might have been a case that he was feeling the effects of his run in the Paddy Power as both were run on desperate ground. The Paddy power form di hold up though to some degree in that race as Starchitect was on his way to hosing up when going wrong just before the last and other runners from the Paddy power held similar finishing positions with the exceptions of LP and Splash of ginge both flopped.

I once read a piece by Nick Mordin that stuck with me, he swore that the best time to catch a bad jumper was when fresh he made a case with it being something to do with Muscle repair. It was an interesting piece and it stuck with me whether it has the desired effect every time is another question.


I'd be more than happy with the prices I hold to see Le prezien take his chance here I think solid form from the Paddy power, being fresh and better ground to go on would certainly see him produce an improved performance and I think he'd run a really big race off what is certain to be a very strong pace.

If not I think he'll run a big race whatever he consents to line up in, he's a horse I like a lot and I'm not giving up on him after one poor performance in a bog.

Just answered above no not completely balls deep mate I have Cloudy dream in quite a few e/w multiples and maybe a fair bit on him in singles because I'd played a lot of e/w doubles with him thinking it was buying place money but ones like CML and a couple of other haven't turned up so now they are singles.

Le prezien though I'm in for 16 quid to near 6k on the exchanges and have £30 e/w at 50's NRNB plus I'd have included him in a couple of e/w multi's.

So not big in terms of outlay but rewards could be massive. He's still 150 on the machine (I've had between 200 and 450 I think) However just noticed today that he's drifting for the Plate and the Jonny Henderson so fingers crossed JP wants a runner in the Ryan Air and he's the only option. Better ground and better round of jumping he has a serious chance of framing IMO if the likes of WP are out of the way that is.

Prayer Mat out overnight for a good declaration stage.

If this is true then its game on bitches !

O'Brien: "Waiting Patiently was the one who if he had turned up you thought would test UDS. Un De Sceaux has won over this trip on testing ground in France so I wouldn't have too many worries, and he's settling better as he gets older, he looks as good as ever.
"I've give Cue Card a good chance of getting placed."
Paul Nicholls will be involved with Frodon and Le Prezien. Frodon will be ridden with more restraint than last time out.
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