The Stayers Hurdle 2017

I would have thought Jezki far likelier to accompany UNWIMH in the Stayers, than he is Yanworth/MTOY in the Champion Hurdle......which probably bounces Kotkikova into the Mares by default.
 
Just noticed that Betbright are 7/2 VVM for this race. They are not NRNB which means they are considerably shorter than everyone else.

Are we to read anything into this knowing who is balls deep in this company?
 
Just noticed that Betbright are 7/2 VVM for this race. They are not NRNB which means they are considerably shorter than everyone else.

Are we to read anything into this knowing who is balls deep in this company?

I'd be interested to know what Vautour's odds for the Ryanair were in the run up to the festival off these lot.
 
I would have thought Jezki far likelier to accompany UNWIMH in the Stayers, than he is Yanworth/MTOY in the Champion Hurdle......which probably bounces Kotkikova into the Mares by default.


@sevenbarrows Where's Kotkikova heading to at the festival, Nicky?

not sure yet. Huntington on Friday will tell us more
 
who cares what you heard or not before you sad old bat

and fwiw(not much for you but still) its obvious I was referring to ONCE he has a plan, not IF. Once he knows Faugheen runs or not, he'll decide if Jezki goes CH or not, regardless of Yanworth and MTOY also in there.

These reporters put words into trainers mouths every day and are worse than CNN at times and those who can't think for themselves read their crap and get all sorts of stupid ideas

You ask any trainer about one of JP's when the answer is not blatantly obvious and you won't get a definite answer like Charli Parcs eg

There is more chance of Sprinter Sacre running in the Champion Hurdle than Jezki who has every chance in the SH and no chance in the Champion Hurdle. He clearly didn't retain enough of his speed to get the better of Hurricane Fly when they finished 3rd and 4th in the Champion but as soon as he was stepped up in trip and stamina came into it he was back on the winning trail beating the Fly easily.

His performance over 2 was good but miles short of CH class and he will run again over 2 miles apparently in the Red Mills which can be a bit of a non event. Dunguib won a 3 horse race Zaidpour beat nothing in it Semper Medic was long odds on when he won it as was Kitten Rock.......if Jezki should win it and nothing takes him on there would be little or no encouragement taken from it to think suddenly Jezki is as good as he was 4 years ago

Harrington said more in her dreams and no way on this earth will she send the horse up against Yanworth when he's obviously a much better animal these days over 3 miles.

YKWIMH is a nice horse but he is nowhere near the class of Thistlecrack.....someone mention he beat a 160 horse lil Rockerfeller who is becoming a bit of a professional loser. 2 races before that he was beating 140 horses and really he has beaten nothing near the quality that Jezki has. He is without doubt more beatable than the front 4 in the Champion Hurdle are and she'd need to be completely off her trolly to even suggest running him in it.....because if he does he will win nothing

IMO Jezki should be clear fav for the Stayers and if you in your wisdom think there's the remotest chance he'll run in the Champion Hurdle Faugheen or no Faugheen go take the 40's with Betfair.

It seems to me no matter what I write with no matter how much blatantly obvious evidence attached you think it's shyte and come up with some crazy idiotic statements straight out of a comic book to try and prove me wrong.

You definitely have the weirdest ideas about racing I have ever come across and if someone paid you what good ideas you have in your head you'd be flat broke

Your's Sincerely

The Sad old Bat :cool:
 
too bad you wasted so many words for explaining to me how bad I am at punting before you read what I initially said above and without knowing that most of my A/P multiples include Jezki for this not for the CH. I said McManus plan is easy, send Yanworth and MTOY for the CH, and Jezki & Harry for this but he's a serious owner who won't flinch sending 10 for a single important race. I mentioned his actions after `15 CH spoke loudly, if Faugheen is around he'll send Jezki up in trip. If not he's back into the mix for the CH and it won't matter to him like it would to a RR type the fact that he has Yanworth and MTOY in there as well. The fact that I evidentiated what could happen doesn't mean i am in favour or not of any of those possibilities, thats what you don't get. Take a chill pill and stop guessing what anyone has on their betting slip so you can be more objective and constructive to the discussion. Out.
 
@sevenbarrows Where's Kotkikova heading to at the festival, Nicky?

not sure yet. Huntington on Friday will tell us more

That was a qn he answered yesterday... yet the hose isn't entered on Friday? Exactly how pished is Nicky these days?
 
George Charlton claims Knockara Beau Beau at the ripe old age of 14yo is in fantastic form and will run much better than his 66/1 price suggests.

You have to admire the never say die attitude of the trainer despite wearing rose coloured glasses but who can blame him ? Horse has won 11 times for him

This will be the old horses 56 race under rules. The fact is he'd have to run a stone better than he ever has in his life to win but he doesn't know that and will be in there doing his best.
 
Yes. Let's hope he runs up to his very best and that the TV show makes plenty of it.

It's old warriors like him that add to the appeal of NH racing and highlighting him can help the show widen its appeal.

His very presence will probably add a couple of hundred to the attendance too.
 
Cleeve is going to tell us a lot and backing Shaneshill 12;s still available if that's where he's going..you could do worse. I reckon YKWIMH is going to find life tougher tomorrow and even tougher at Cheltenham where his run will come to an abrupt end.
 
Scratchings announced today

Annie Power, Faugheen,Ivanovich Gorbatov,Kotkikova, Mister Miyagi, One Track Mind,Ptit Zig, Rawnaq,Reve De Sivola, Shantou Bob,The Romford Pele

36 entries remain
 
I went e/w on Zarkander and Cole Harden ( only pence, not like you lot !) just think I'd be daft not to....


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