The Tingle Creeek

No point. Chepstow in heavy and April last sandown too is all I need to know to confirm he stays 2m comfortably. They were both good races
 
reet hard said:
He had the race won at every stage, and wasn't asked a question until disposing of Captain Conan in half-a-dozen strides after the 2nd last.
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Captain Conan wasn't asked a question until that point either and if he'd won could have been said to have had the race won at every stage. Sire De Grugy was entitled to win if CC didn't show the requisite improvement from his novice season.
 
Desert Orchid said:
Captain Conan wasn't asked a question until that point either and if he'd won could have been said to have had the race won at every stage. Sire De Grugy was entitled to win if CC didn't show the requisite improvement from his novice season.
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Aye, just make your own story up as you go along.:rolleyes:
Captain Conan was done for speed by a much sharper horse. I've little doubt he'll show "the requisite improvement" when given more of a stamina test.
 
Visually Cheltenham looks stiffer, certainly in person.

edgt said:
Surely the chase course at Sandown is stiffer than the hurdles course there.
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More galloping due to the pond fence intersection anyway, does that make it a stiffer test?
 
reet hard said:
Aye, just make your own story up as you go along.:rolleyes:
Captain Conan was done for speed by a much sharper horse. I've little doubt he'll show "the requisite improvement" when given more of a stamina test.
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All of Hendo's seem to have come on enormously for the run this season though
 
edgt said:
Surely the chase course at Sandown is stiffer than the hurdles course there.
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Few chase courses are stiffer than hurdles at the same track, by dint of the former having more obstacles to break the pace up. Sandown chase course is less testing than it might be, owing to the 7 fences close together down the back.
 
I would reckon those close fences make it harder not easier than other courses.

How many courses are "stiffer" than Chepstow and sandown anyway? He's won there well and that's that really
 
Desert Orchid said:
I backed SDG. I wouldn't have been confident of calling it the winner until going to the second last.

So stick your fcuking rolleyes up your fcuking asre.
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Would that be the same second last where "he won the race by gaining momentum away from it"? :)
 
reet hard said:
Would that be the same second last where "he won the race by gaining momentum away from it"? :)
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Just so that I'm clear here Reet - you appear to be saying that throughout the race it looked as if Sire De Grugy was going to win the race and Captain Conan was not?

Which would therefore equate to saying that if SDG had jumped the 2nd last and not put on the undoubted burst of speed which he showed, that he would have won anyway - as he had the race won at every stage of the race, including the end?

Is that correct or have you just used those words in that order by mistake?
 
What is it with all this conjecture?
Captain Conan didn't win, didn't have a burst of speed, and never looked - at any stage of the race - to have the measure of SDG, and no amount of hypothesising is going to change that, so can we stick to discussing the ramifications of what actually happened; rather than what might have been, in a parallel universe?
 
reet hard said:
What is it with all this conjecture?
Captain Conan didn't win, didn't have a burst of speed, and never looked - at any stage of the race - to have the measure of SDG,
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And there is the rub. He did. No conjecture - there was a race on until SDG injected his burst of speed and put the matter to bed.

Have another look at the race - Captain Conan looks a live danger coming off the bend, regardless of SDG getting blocked off.

Of course, that is just my opinion from having watched the race and it is clear that you have great disdain for other peoples opinions. In fact, you come across as a bit of a cyber warrior. And we all know what happens to them.
 
reet hard said:
Would that be the same second last where "he won the race by gaining momentum away from it"? :)
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What I actually wrote was:

I thought he won it when he checked SDG's stride approaching the second last and then rode it confidently for a good jump. That allowed the horse to meet the fence bang on and gain momentum away from it
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You obviously aren't short of reading problems yourself.
 
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