Tony Bloom

[Slim]

I'm sure not all syndicates work the same or do all those things, especially depending upon their size or location, but the internet search just brought back the same stuff I'd read in articles/interviews re Hong Kong syndicates, an interview of Tony Bloom I'd read, plus stuff a guy I know who works doing the maths stuff for one of them has told me. Tony Bloom's comment about silo's was interesting to me, I think he wanted to limit the number of people who had a view of the whole operation.

So what other stuff is there?

I think you might be conflating Billy Walters with Tony Bloom. Walters was on the record saying he spoke to his stats/weather/football/basketball guys, but he never wanted any of them speaking to each other. Starlizard, by contrast, have a strict policy that staff can't bet on football or comment on games in public.

The hiring process doesn’t just require good maths but real critical thinking about how odds should move. One of the entrance questions was:

How many players would need to be removed from a men’s team for the English women’s team to be 2.0 on the Asian handicap, draw no bet?

There was a story years ago about someone there betting the card himself. They obviously found out — through what means I don’t know, but no doubt GDPR was broken. They couldn’t outright sack him because that would prove they had bent the rules, so he was essentially paid off to f%*& off.

Another person offered them a way to get on in Australia and was laughed out the door when he refused to deal in crypto.

The syndicate is ruthless, and commission deals aren’t worth the paper they’re not written on. Syndicates usually involve value asymmetry, where the profits come from one or two people but the whole group benefits. Working with other people opens the door to more volume, but it also creates problems when people feel like there’s freeloading involved.

 

[an capall]

Is great altogether

Tbh, that's how I feel about the endless obsession many have with the likes of Bloom and McManus - there's a fascinating racing game with loads of betting opportunities (as I've been illustrating virtually every week for months lately frankly) yet all some seem want to talk about are these herberts.

Surely discussing the betting industry and completely omitting the likes of Bloom and JPM is like discussing the software industry and refusing to mention Microsoft or Oracle?

 

[Slim]

Surely discussing the betting industry and completely omitting the likes of Bloom and JPM is like discussing the software industry and refusing to mention Microsoft or Oracle?

Correct. "It's all in the game, yo".

 

[Ian_Davies]

Surely discussing the betting industry and completely omitting the likes of Bloom and JPM is like discussing the software industry and refusing to mention Microsoft or Oracle?

I could simply refer the Honourable Gentleman to the answer I gave pawras but, seeing as an capall is responsible for my personal TH Post Of The Year, I'll add this.

I don't generally discuss the betting industry personally, I only ever even think about (and maybe occasionally discuss here) items I believe will lead to further profitable bets for me.

That doesn't make me right and others wrong, nor does it make me superior and others inferior.

I just don't do gossip - I see little or no percentage in it - and most of what I read on threads like this and the McManus one are simply that IMO.

Cracking Sub Stack from Slim, though - that was definitely worth a read.

 

[Generous1991]

How many players would need to be removed from a men’s team for the English women’s team to be 2.0 on the Asian handicap, draw no bet?

Great question!

If I understand the Asian handicap right, I'm looking to reduce the men to the point where it's 50/50 they win by 2 or more.

I'd still make seven men favourites to win by at least 2, so I'll say remove five.

 

[archie]

If you remove 5 players the match will stop as, according to the regulations,
"A match may not start or continue if either team has fewer than seven players."

 

[Generous1991]

If you remove 5 players the match will stop as, according to the regulations,
"A match may not start or continue if either team has fewer than seven players."

Bah!